User talk:Carl Francis

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Again, welcome! Chuck Entz (talk) 18:32, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

A few problems with your etymologies[edit]

Hi, I have had to fix up many of the etymologies you provided, so I want to let you know.

  • {{etyl|ceb|ceb}} should only be used for twice-borrowed terms: when a term was borrowed from Cebuano into another language, and then Cebuano borrowed that term back again.
  • {{term}} should always have the lang= parameter. Or better still, use {{m}}, as {{term}} is a bit obsolete.
  • Sanskrit terms should be given in Devanagari script. If you don't know how to write it, give the transliteration with tr=.

Thank you. —CodeCat 17:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

# in synonyms[edit]

Hi Carl. We use bullet lists (with *) instead of numeric lists (with #) in sections other than the one with the definitions. If you need to link to a specific sense, you can use the template {{sense}}. — Ungoliant (falai) 18:31, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Edit summaries[edit]

Hi. When creating a new page, could you leave the edit summary box blank? This allows us to see the actual page contents in Recent Changes. Thanks! Equinox 08:05, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


Carl, you need to add a babel box to your userpage at Carl Francis. Here is an example, but you need to adjust it so that it reflects your language ability. Please let me know if you need any help with it. —Stephen (Talk) 22:38, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

en This user is a native speaker of English.
ceb-4 Kining maong gumagamit makatampo og daw-lumad nga matang sa Sinugboanon.
fil-1 Panimulang nagsasalita ng wikang Filipino ang user na ito.
Search user languages or scripts
Also, we don't treat Filipino as a separate language from Tagalog, but the Babel system doesn't know that. WT:LOL has our list of languages and language codes that we consider valid, and WT:LANGTREAT has explanations for many of the languages we don't recognize. I know you know that, but I didn't want us to make it any more confusing for Carl than it already is by giving unintentionally misleading examples. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Nested suffixes[edit]

Hi. In the entry sinugdanan, you typed:


I replaced it by:

{{infix|ceb|sugod|-in-}} + {{af|ceb|-an|-an}}

My point is, I think it's better not to nest suffix templates repeatedly. The template {{af}} (or {{affix}}) recognizes suffixes and prefixes automatically by the placement of the hyphen. Unfortunately, {{af}} does not support infixes, that's why I kept the {{infix}} separately. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 05:28, 29 June 2016 (UTC)


Why did you revert my bot? DTLHS (talk) 23:39, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Regarding those you call "useless" categories[edit]

As you said on my talk page, I am adding "useless categories". But no, one category you removed on one entry I edited is related to basic words, or words being taught to a learner of a language. If you now know what those "basic words" mean, such as in Category:Cebuano basic words, then you may provide me a list of words considered basic (or taught to a learner), so I can categorize them under it. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:00, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Cebuano surname entries[edit]

@Carl Francis If possible, use the {{surname}} template when adding entries to Cebuano surnames, rather than adding "a surname" and adding the category Category:Cebuano surnames. Also, please add the etymology and language of origin (in the {{surname}} template) when known. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 04:50, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

"de", "dela/de la", "delas/de las", "del" and "delos/de los" in surnames[edit]

Please take note that the particles "de", "dela/de la", "delas/de las", "del" and "delos/de los" from Spanish surnames used in Cebuano should be always in lowercase, so the Cebuano entry for "dela Cruz" is not "Dela Cruz". I am redirecting the surnames with those uppercase articles to the one with the lowercase particles. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 11:23, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Also, please note that capitalization of "dela/de la", "delas/de las", "del" and "delos/de los" in surnames are only capitalized in indexing, but those are always in lowercase. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 11:26, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Language separator[edit]

Hi. When you add a new language section (e.g. katmon), remember to add the "----" line. Otherwise we are going to confuse a lot of bots. Thanks! Equinox 02:15, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Surname entries: please use the {{surname}} template[edit]

@Carl Francis Again, please use the {{surname}} template on surname entries you create. Being non-English is not a reason not to use that, and the template will remove the need for you to add the category manually. You did use the {{surname}} template on surname entries you created at first, but you soon resorted on adding it yourself, manually. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 10:47, 2 November 2017 (UTC)


Hello. Might I ask you to stop using {{etyl}}? We're phasing it out and replacing it with {{der}} (and {{inh}} / {{bor}} when appropriate). Thank you! --Barytonesis (talk) 10:40, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Cebuano word dagan[edit]

May I know why my edits got reverted? --Josefwintzent Libot (talk) 04:59, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Edit war on the Dela Cruz entry for Cebuano[edit]

@Carl Francis:. Please give me a reason why not to change the definition of the surname Dela Cruz into a template-based one (using the {{surname}} template), that eliminates the need to add the definition and category yourself. And why would you call me a vandal, and that is all an ad hominem attack? I do not want this editing conflict to worsen, so please, stop reverting my constructive edits and insist on creating surname entries in Cebuano using a manually written definition and category. Thanks.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 06:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

@Carl Francis Please reply.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:54, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, Carl. I'm an admin, and I'd like to second TagaSanPedroAko's request that you use standard templates like {{surname}} in your entries. There is no reason not to do so in your entries, and correct formatting makes it more possible to improve our dictionary. If you do not listen, there are potential consequences, but you have been a prolific contributor and I would really like to avoid doing anything that hinders your contributions. Please follow these formatting tips, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask me. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 17:59, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

English entries[edit]

Remember to use en-noun and not ceb-noun! Equinox 14:31, 4 December 2017 (UTC)