User talk:Malcolm of Pelshire

Good morning my Lord.

May I draw your attention to Wiktionary:Welsh index - it is quite sparse, and could do with some additions. SemperBlotto 10:42, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The above was the missive that convinced me to create a new username. I have no right to the title of Lord, even in jest. — Malcolm of Pelshire 19:45, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Repeat entries

Malcolm. When you add an article, and it says that the article does not exist, it is lying. It is just that it hasn't found its way round the multiple servers yet. Please don't add duplicates - they are a pain to delete. Bye the way, if you want your old User and talk pages deleted just add a {{rfd}} tag and it will be done. SemperBlotto 10:42, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hello Malcolm - I don't get the jest, sorry. Anyhow, just to follow on from what SemperBlotto says, when you click "Save page" and you get a page saying the entry doesn't exist yet, trying clicking the "Reload" button on your browser. You might have to do this a couple of times, but the new page will emerge eventually. — Paul G 11:18, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Welsh letter pages

Hi Malcolm,

Your pages "Welsh G", etc, are useful but should not be main entries. It might be worth moving the content of all of these into an appendix (say, "Appendix:Welsh pronunciation"). — Paul G 10:57, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for adding the appendix - it looks great. It's OK to have encyclopedic-looking appendices because appendices naturally have a different structure from entry pages and are there to gather together information that doesn't fit into a page for an entry in the "body" of the dictionary. This sort of stuff still belongs in a dictionary because its useful information about language.

It might be worth adding a comment that the comparisons with English pronunciation are approximate and that they correspond to standard English pronunciation (RP - I assume this is what you are comparing too, rather than English as it is spoken in, say, Liverpool or Newcastle). As for "ll" and "ew", I'd go with how they are formed in the mouth only (as you have done with "ll") rather than trying to compare to a non-existent English sound (to my ear, "whithle" and Welsh "ll" are different). I would say that "ll" is nearer to the "cl" sound in "clock", although this a little way off too. I'm not sure. Maybe refer to to the table at [1] - I think "ɬ" might be the right symbol (an alveolar lateral fricative) sounds right for this sound. I'm just typing as I think, so see what you think.

Other that that minor criticism, I think this page is just what is needed. Maybe eventually we will have an appendix giving links to pages such as this one that give pronunciation hints for all languages. Maybe you might like to propose such an appendix in the beer parlour and see if there is any enthusiasm for setting it up. — Paul G 10:13, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

PS: Isn't "Cymraeg" just the Welsh word for "Welsh"? If so, Welsh is not more properly called "Cymraeg" in English. It's Welsh in English and Cymraeg in Welsh.