User talk:LoutK

Hello!

Thanks for the message you left for me! I found it quite useful as I haven't quite got a hang of it (yet). I will (probably) mostly make/edit korean verb/adjective pages!

Also I'm a bit curious to why did you delete the "Also attested in Worin Seokbo" part of the 여물다 page (I referenced everything from 표준국어대사전 except for the translation, which i did it myself) 홍시원 (talk) 20:10, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@홍시원: 표준국어대사전 often doesn't make the distinction between older forms that are the direct ancestor of the modern form and older forms that are etymologically related to the modern form but aren't the direct ancestor. In the case of 여물다, MK 여믈다 is clearly and uncontroversially the direct ancestor of the modern form.

Actually, for etymologies, you're better off using 고려대한국어대사전 (Naver and Daum host it) which does make this distinction and is, in my opinion, a better dictionary overall. I rarely consult 표준국어대사전 except for pronunciation.

Anyways, I'd be really glad if you do continue creating these pages. We still have many Korean verb/adjective entries that are either missing or in need of a revamp. — LoutK (talk) 22:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks for the information! 홍시원 (talk) 22:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@홍시원: If you want to use 표준국어대사전, look for the form that is directly next to the "＜" sign. It is supposed to mark the ancestral form, and the slash is supposed to mark a related form that had co-existed with that form. The way that they haven't marked this clearly seems to have misled many. I would still consult 우리말샘 or 고려대한국어대사전 though, as 표준국어대사전 hasn't been updated and often contradicts even its own 우리말샘 (like how it still lists ＜사ᄅᆞ다 for 살리다 when 우리말샘 and 고려대한국어대사전 clearly state that it's not a direct ancestor). — LoutK (talk) 01:36, 3 March 2022 (UTC)