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Hi Tempo. :) I'm going to work on making those red links blue on your Gutenberg dictionary project. I figured it also helps me to expand my vocabulary. —Mikemoral♪♫ 21:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Mikemoral, mi gxojas vidi vin tie cxi! Thanks for the help. Filling out the Gutenberg word lists is a very long-term project; as you can see, I'm only one-third the way through the letter A. I'm hoping to round up a few more Esperantists from this project to help out eventually. If that seems to daunting, a more achievable pursuit would be to blue-link all the entries here. Tempodivalse [talk] 21:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Mi ĝojas helpi vin! It is indeed a very daunting task to complete this, but it helps to make Wiktionary a more complete interlingual dictionary. :) I'll be sure to help complete these Esperanto word lists. —Mikemoral♪♫ 21:57, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

<-- I found another out-of-copyright Esperanto dictionary. I don't know if you have already seen it. Link here. Thought it might be useful. —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, thanks! It looks a little less comprehensive than the other one, but worth a look. Tempodivalse [talk] 15:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Esperanto verbs with no conjugation template[edit]

I've allowed MewBot to run on all the Esperanto verbs, but there were still some that had no conjugation table. I've made a list of them now, which you can see at User:CodeCat/Esperanto verbs with no conjugation table. I hope that's useful to you. —CodeCat 16:57, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Tempodivalse [talk] 17:01, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Esperanto etymologies[edit]

Do you think you could add etymologies to the entries you create? A lot of the words have very simple etymologies so it shouldn't be too hard, and it helps people learning the language to recognise the different parts. —CodeCat 00:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I can try to do it more often, thanks for the suggestion. Esperanto's word-agglutination is very logical and easy to grasp in most cases even without an etymology, but I guess every bit helps. Tempodivalse [talk] 00:05, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
It's not always as intuitive as you may think. subakviĝi seems easy enough because you recognise the three parts sub, akv- and -iĝi. But how exactly the word is structured isn't obvious. Is it sub + akviĝi or subakv- + -iĝi? And if it's the latter, then what is the lemma of the first part? subakva? But the noun is akvo... So you see there are a lot of different possible interpretations and it would be useful to list the right one. :) —CodeCat 10:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Good point ... I need to include the etymology in my copy/paste boilerplate. Tempodivalse [talk] 15:14, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Variations: namespace[edit]

In this revision, I removed a superfluous "Voting on:" from the vote, soon after it started.

I'm just letting you know that, since you are the only voter (not counting me), and the exact wording is important for formal reasons. (So, feel free to consider whether this change was so big you changed your mind, I guess. :p) Thanks. --Daniel 00:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

A shocking addition. I must reconsider my theory on the meaning of life in view of these changes.
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Umm, in other words, no big deal. I didn't even notice it. :-) Thank you for the comment, though. Tempodivalse [talk] 00:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


How is it possible to contact you? You don't appear to have an account at Wikisource. Respectfully, Mattisse 15:12, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

? I have an account there and am readily accessible: wikisource:User talk:Tempodivalse; you may also email me through wikisource. Tempodivalse [talk] 17:40, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

without plurals[edit]

Hello. Some Esperanto words, nouns, don't have a plural. Is there some automated way to show this? --Change of lung 16:45, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

You can remove the "-j" and "-jn" endings from the noun template by using this syntax: {{eo-noun|-}} instead of {{eo-noun}}.
Also, might I suggest you enable the "Add accelerated creation links for common inflections of some words" gadget in your preferences, so that you can quickly create the inflected forms of nouns/adjectives. Tempodivalse [talk] 16:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
What are inflected forms? --Change of lung 16:49, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
"Inflected words" are nouns and adjectives that are in the accusative and/or plural (in other words, they don't end in "-o" or "-a". (Does that make sense?) See also the definition at inflection#Noun. Tempodivalse [talk] 16:52, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
I get it. We don't have this is English, when I first starting trying to teach myself, I was like "accusative? What's that?" but I understand now - subject/object etc. How about the verbs? They're inflected, and there are lots of red links on verb pages. Do these get created automatically? --Change of lung 16:56, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
  • This accelerated tool is really handy. I tried with diplomataj, but probably have done something wrong. --Change of lung 16:59, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
    Yeah, it's a great invention. You've done everything correctly - just save the automatically created page without touching anything and you should be fine. Regarding verb inflections: the gadget doesn't work for them but, if you add a verb to User:MewBot/feedme#Esperanto verbs, a bot will come around shortly to do all the appropriate inflections for you. Tempodivalse [talk] 17:02, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
    Thanks, that looks like a mega-useful tool too. It gives us more time to make articles, I guess. --Change of lung 17:06, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
    Yeah, Wiktionary makes use of bots and gadgets a lot more than other projects. With a very regular language like Esperanto, it's relatively risk-free to entrust it with grammatical functions. Tempodivalse [talk] 17:17, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

outside Esperanto[edit]

Outside of Esperanto, is there much else I can do? The English articles we have here all seem really great, lots of translations and pronunciations, derived terms, quotes from books, etc. I'm very impressed. Even some weird words I didn't expect to be able to find are included. I guess the English part of the dictionary is pretty complete already, right? But it might be like Wikipedia: at first glance it looks amazing, but if you dig deeper, you find a lot of mistakes and areas to improve. OK, this is not really first glance, I've used Wiktionary before to get definitions, but you probably get the gist. --Change of lung 17:04, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I don't really speak any other languages. I don't speak Esperanto, for that matter, but it is really simple. --Change of lung 17:07, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Recently, it's usually the polyglots who flock to the site (the average Babel box length here is much longer than on Wikipedia), but there are a lot of English-only speakers who find things to do without delving into the multilingual aspect of the site. There are some English words and phrases that we haven't yet covered: Wiktionary:Requested entries (English). Most of the English work is simply refining existing material: verifying definitions, clarifying them, etc. That in itself is quite an effort. Of course, helping in Esperanto gives you many more possibilities. Tempodivalse [talk] 17:15, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Could you help with cleaning up?[edit]

MewBot has been doing a lot of work but there were some duplicate entries. They're now in Category:Requests for cleanup (MewBot). Could you help with fixing them by removing the first of the two in each entry? Thank you! —CodeCat 21:48, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Mm, how inconvenient. I'll have a look shortly. Tempodivalse [talk] 01:29, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Votes/2011-10/Categories of names 3[edit]

Because you voted in Wiktionary:Votes/2011-07/Categories of names, I'm informing you of this new vote.​—msh210 (talk) 01:57, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Open Globe[edit]

Hi. I was looking to write a short Signpost story on the Open Globe and why it didn't succeed. Would you be able to comment? Publishing time is in about 24 to 26 hours. Thanks, The ed17 (talk) 04:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Replied at your en.wikipedia talk page. Tempodivalse [talk] 14:57, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
No worries! I have much of why the project split from WN thanks to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2011-09-19/Sister projects, but I need to know why it went into decline (I assume?) and ultimately went down over the last week. Many thanks, The ed17 (talk) 20:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Hi Tempo, you have any attention to restart the OG again? I'm Willing to help financially whenever needed.-- 15:01, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
    Thanks for the offer (though I'm not sure who made this comment? you've not logged in). However, I don't have any immediate plans to restart OG - mainly since university starts in under a week and I won't have time. I'm also not confident that it will work better a 2nd time when there is no longer a sizable community willing to support the project. I have ideas for creating a wiki-project on a topic other than citizen journalism, but it's nowhere near completion. Tempodivalse [talk] 15:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
saqib here.