Wiktionary talk:Votes/2009-12/Masculine and feminine given names

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So who will do the actual work?[edit]

Is somebody volunteering for the huge task of renaming all the given name categories and entries, should this vote pass? Without a clear promise from somebody, this vote should never begin. See also Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2010-01/Renaming given name appendixes. --Makaokalani 17:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Evidently, should this vote pass, everyone would do the small work of naming new entries and appendices masculine and feminine. As for the old ones, I'll rename them. --Daniel. 15:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Masculine/male[edit]

Simply enough, I dispute the hypothesis behind this vote. Male does not only refer "only to biological sex", it also refers to males, specifically human males, and their practices. "Masculine" given names makes me think like "macho, chauvinisitic" given names. Male is much more accurate in Contemporary English. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:47, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Male" refers primarily to individuals with penises that produce sperm. "Masculine" refers to culturally associated traits of individuals. The two often overlap, but there is a real difference between them. If you want to use "male", then are we to have a category for hermaphrodite names? What about names of South Asian hijra, whose names are grammatically feminine, but whose bearers are usually biologically male, even though they are legally neither male nor female but belong instead to an officially recognized third gender? --EncycloPetey 17:46, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]