Category talk:Japanese English

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RFD discussion: December 2019–January 2022[edit]

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There is no such thing as Japanese English. The entries herein should mostly be in Category:en:Japan or an etymology category. --ReloadtheMatrix (talk) 22:08, 30 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Ah yeah, this is probably the fault of {{lb|en|Japan}}. There's also Category:Japanese Korean (via this search), which seems to actually be Korean words used in Japan. So English and Korean want different categories for {{lb|en|Japan}}. That's not currently possible; it would require changes to the structure of Module:labels's data modules. — Eru·tuon 22:27, 30 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
Well, at least we can blame the overcomplicated Module. --ReloadtheMatrix (talk) 22:39, 30 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
I've been too lazy to figure out how to add the feature of different label data per language, as User:Rua suggested once. In this case maybe "Japanese" could be a separate label from "Japan" (with the former having the "Japanese Korean" category and the latter the "en:Japan" category), but that would probably be so confusing that nobody'd get it right. — Eru·tuon 20:20, 1 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Delete. HeliosX (talk) 20:15, 1 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
This seems to be the result of misuse of labels: labels that indicate regional restriction in where a word is used being misused to indicate topical categorization and what subjects are word is related to. We formerly had e.g. Category talk:German English for the same reason. The solution is generally to move "Japan(ese)" into the definition. - -sche (discuss) 17:29, 17 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
Delete. I agree with -sche. Ultimateria (talk) 23:35, 13 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Keep, per update. Even if only one or two entries really belong in it now, it's the best category for them. Ultimateria (talk) 22:05, 12 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
Keep: seems to be cleaned now. @HeliosX, UltimateriaSuzukaze-c (talk) 22:52, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Suzukaze-c: I see that the distinction has been made now between terms concerning Japan and terms used in Japan, but are these really English words? Can any of them be attested in English texts? Ultimateria (talk) 23:05, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
That remains to be seen! It seems like @Kwékwlos added a good number of these. I've added quotes to the 2 entries I added. —Suzukaze-c (talk) 23:28, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

RFD-no consensus. Detagged already ages ago by User:Linshee. — Fytcha T | L | C 16:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Fytcha I must have done that by accident. I don't think it'd warrant re-tagging and another discussion though? Linshee 00:55, 11 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Linshee: Feel free to re-tag and reopen it. However, the discussion was kind of stale and people seem to have been swayed to the keep side, so I don't think this is likely going to get deleted. — Fytcha T | L | C 01:02, 11 January 2022 (UTC)Reply