Reconstruction talk:Proto-Indo-European/ser-

Could we add the word hraniti to this page?

https://lrc.la.utexas.edu/eieol_base_form_dictionary/ocsol/13 <хранити, -нѫ, -ниши> protect, guard -- [Pokorny 2. ser- :: to serve, guard, protect, shelter] --

https://oesteuropastudier.dk/ordbog/index.php/term/%5Bsla-eng%5D+Derksen%26%23039%3Bs+Slavic+Inherited+Lexicon,xorniti.xhtml XORNITI xorniti Grammatical information: v. Page in Trubačev: VIII 78-79 Old Church Slavic: xraniti 'preserve, guard, protect' [verb], xranjǫ [1sg] Russian: xoronít' 'bury, hide' [verb], xoronjú [1sg], xorónit [3sg]; xranít' 'keep, preserve' [verb], xranjú [1sg], xranít [3sg] Czech: chrániti 'defend, guard' [verb] Polish: chronić 'defend, guard' [verb] Polabian: xornĕ 'feed' [f ā] Serbo-Croatian: hrániti 'feed, keep, preserve, save' [verb], hrȃnīm [1sg]; Čak. hrā̊nȉti (Vrgada) 'feed, save' [verb], hrãnīš [2sg]; Čak. hrānȉt (Orbanići) 'feed, nourish' [verb], hrãnin [1sg] Slovene: hrániti 'keep, guard' [verb], hránim [1sg] Bulgarian: xránja 'feed' [verb] Comments: The noun from which this verb derives may be a borrowing from Iranian. Other cognates: Av. xvarǝna-

How does *ser- become *xor- in Slavic? —CodeCat 13:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Not at all. But I think I understand it now. This page just treats words which are directly developed from the PIE root *ser- right? Hraniti is just a borrowing. Forget it.

Problem with a link: Latin servo connects to this page, but servo is not found as a derivative of *ser- on this page. Why?

Homophonous roots

There are at least 4 other meanings associated with this root:

• to run, to flow (meaning 1 under IEW): Chiefly based on Latin serum, toponyms, and its derivative Proto-Indo-European *srew- (“to stream”). Pokorny proposes cognate Sanskrit सरति (sarati, “to run, to flow”), but it can also be derived from Proto-Indo-European *sel-;
• to protect, to guard (meaning 2 under IEW, 1 under LIV): Based on Anatolian and Indo-Iranian data;
• to take, to grasp (part of meaning 1 in IEW, 3 under LIV): Based on Ancient Greek αἱρέω (hairéō);
• high: Based on Ancient Greek ἐρι- (eri-, “high”), Hittite [script needed] (šēr, “high, up”).

Probably not all of them are worth addressing, but at least the first one needs more elaboration. Otherwise, the claim about Proto-Indo-European *srew- hangs in the air. Bezimenen (talk) 09:01, 18 October 2019 (UTC)