Reconstruction talk:Proto-Slavic/bibikati

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Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/bibikati

Tagged but not listed by Useigor (talk • contribs) with the comment below. —Mahāgaja · talk 21:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Probably descendants are recent and not Proto-Slavic:

• Russian бибикать "to beep": First attested in 1969–1970 according to ruscorpora. It is absent in:
  • Dahl: Dal, Vladimir (1903) “бибика”, in Толковый Словарь живого великорусскаго языка [Explanatory Dictionary of the Living Great Russian Language] (in Russian), 3rd edition, volume 1, товарищество М. О. Вольфъ, page 210
  • SRNG:

vol=2 Please see Module:checkparams for help with this warning.“бибик”, in Slovarʹ russkix narodnyx govorov [Dictionary of Russian Dialects] (in Russian), Saint Petersburg: Nauka, 1965–

• Bulgarian бибикам "to beep" is absent in:
  • Georgiev: see "Further reading"
  • Gerov: Nayden Gerov (1895) “биба”, in Рѣчникъ на Блъгарскꙑй язꙑкъ. Съ тлъкувание рѣчи-тꙑ на Блъгарскꙑ и на Русскꙑ. [Dictionary of the Bulgarian language]‎^[1] (in Bulgarian), volume 1, Plovdiv: Дружествена печꙗтница "Съгласие.", page 40
  • Gerov: Nayden Gerov, Тодор Панчев (1908) “бибанъ”, in Допълнение на българския рѣчникъ [Dictionary of the Bulgarian language]‎^[2] (in Bulgarian), volume 6, Plovdiv: Печатница "Трудъ" на Петко Бѣловѣждовъ, page 23

I have no opinion myself. —Mahāgaja · talk 21:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

It can be safely deleted. I found the correspondance worth noting, but I should have write it down in Sandbox or under the etymology section of Bulgarian бибикам (bibikam). The derivations in *-kati are still productive in all Slavic languages, so it is more likely a recent formation. My bad... Безименен (talk)

Delete. Fay Freak (talk) 14:38, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

RFD-deleted. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 17:31, 4 July 2022 (UTC)