Talk:coon

UK

This edit is certainly incorrect, no? DAVilla 21:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

It is used primarily in both the US and the UK. 86.172.248.135 09:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

isthisentrylockd??

hm-itis(owso nolocksymbol? 81.11.219.30 01:23, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

It is locked, if there are some changes you would like to see please elaborate and I can help. - TheDaveRoss 01:27, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

"Left wing politics"? Doesn't seem objective.

The last definition seems a bit biased, specifically in a conservative direction. "Coon" is used to describe black individuals who are perceived to be wittingly if not maliciously working against the interests of the black community at large. Not simply to criticize good faith political disagreements.

RFV discussion: May–December 2019

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coon

"(US, racial slur, neologism) A black person who disagrees with left-wing politics." Equinox ◑ 22:23, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Poked around on Reddit a bit and it seems that this may be used specifically by black people to criticise other black people. If so, might need a usage note. Equinox ◑ 22:24, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

I guess this relates to this verb sense of coon: “(African-American Vernacular, of an African-American) To play the dated stereotype of a black fool for an audience, particularly including Caucasians”. The person doing this is “playing the coon”, and I bet the noun “coon” in this sense is used in the black community to refer to black people who are seen to be playing the coon. The supposed neologism is likely an obvious extension to black people lending support to what is perceived as dominant white policies that objectively oppress black people. I think “racial slur” is a mislabelling – as is “African American Vernacular English” in the label for the verb sense.  --Lambiam 10:48, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

So a sort of synonym for Uncle Tom? Equinox ◑ 13:11, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Kinda, but more nasty, like calling someone a “sellout” is more nasty than accusing them of “playing along”. At least, that is my guess; I’m far from an authority on the use of the term.  --Lambiam 14:07, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

My uninformed impression is similar. DCDuring (talk) 14:52, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

The above discussion suggests that the definition is over-specific (and also, possibly not recent/'neologism'). - -sche (discuss) 23:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

I removed the challenged definition (RFV-failed as no citations were provided), and added the definition derived from the verb, which seems to basically encompass it (diff). Revise (or RFV) the definition, or usage label, as needed. - -sche (discuss) 04:50, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Resolved, I think. - -sche (discuss) 16:56, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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coon

"(derogatory, ethnic slur) A black person who does not adhere to far-left political views." I thought this meaning was discussed already and deleted in December 2019. See Talk:coon — This unsigned comment was added by 108.46.212.100 (talk) at 23:35, 7 June 2020‎.

According to the previous discussion, @-sche removed the challenged definition as it was unsupported by citations, and added sense 6 "which seems to basically encompass it". @Illegitimate Barrister re-added the sense on 2 June 2020 with two citations. However, to my mind both of the citations do not qualify as they are mere mentions of the word and not uses of them. (Also notifying @Equinox, DCDuring, Lambiam who took part in the previous discussion.) — SGconlaw (talk) 15:57, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

OK, @Chuck Entz has speedily deleted the challenged sense. — SGconlaw (talk) 16:01, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes. Both cites were mentions in non-durably-archived sources, and 3 would be required anyway. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

i found a meme that made me immediately think of this ... I think it's real and distinct from the sense we have cited .... I dont know if this is a new thing or not. —Soap— 04:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Etymology 2

https://www.etymonline.com/word/coon 65.95.194.171 08:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)