Talk:dar hora
Latest comment: 2 years ago by Ultimateria in topic RFD discussion: September 2019–December 2021
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Spanish: SOP --Vealhurl (talk) 15:25, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- Seems idiomatic to me, but perhaps the definition is off. Not knowing Spanish, I might interpret a request like ¿Podrías darme hora? as “Could you tell me the time?”, in other words, “Can you tell me what time it is?” Is the sense of hora in dar hora “an hour” (60 minutes of your precious time) or “the time” (the time of the appointment)? In the latter case, the meaning is (presumably) “to communicate the time of an upcoming appointment”, which is not the sense conveyed by the current definition. In that case the term is indeed SOPpy; however, ¿Podrías darme hora, por favor? may be phrasebook stuff, or else there should be a usex at the entry dar (or both). --Lambiam 04:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- The phrase for asking the time would be ¿Podrías darme la hora, por favor? --Vealhurl (talk) 07:07, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Good to know, but we should not presuppose that the user of Wiktionary knows that. So what does ¿Podrías darme hora? mean? “Could you give me an appointment?”? Since “appointment” is not (listed as) a sense of hora, that would be idiomatic (unless that sense is unduly missing). --Lambiam 11:52, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. ux added to entry for clarification. -- Dentonius (my politics | talk) 22:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- RFD kept. P.S. I don't believe there's a sense of hora that renders this unidiomatic. Ultimateria (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2021 (UTC)