Talk:kind

Second etymology: from kine (oops! incorrect)

Edit title. —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

I’ve added the second etymology (from kine, “cattle”), and removed the (idiomatic) tag, as the usage has a legit (non-idiomatic) etymology, albeit an unfamiliar one.

Nbarth (email) (talk) 01:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

This disagrees with the etymology for "in kind" shown at http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_kind. Davidwbulger 03:15, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks David! You are correct, they disagree – and, further, the “cattle” etymology (from (deprecated template usage) kine) I gave is incorrect (it’s a folk etymology); the Latinate (calque of (deprecated template usage) in specie) given at (deprecated template usage) in kind is correct. I’ve corrected this entry, given an (OED) reference at in kind, and summarized in a discussion at “in kind” talk page. Thanks again!

—Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

What kind of (a)

According to Garner's fourth edition

With this phrasing, the a in what kind of a is typical of uncultivated speech

--Backinstadiums (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

unmarked plural

Historically, kind is an unchanged or unmarked plural noun like deer, folk, sheep, swine. 
Sort of has been influenced by the use of kind as an unchanged plural.

--Backinstadiums (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

quantity

We don’t have that kind of money! --Backinstadiums (talk) 09:39, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Creationist sense

I'm not sure if this is too specific to mention, since it's covered by the more general sense 1, but there is a sense of "kind" in creationism synonymous with the neologism baramin. 70.172.194.25 12:31, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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kind

• (archaic) One's inherent nature; character, natural disposition.
  • 1485, Sir Thomas Malory, “vij”, in Le Morte Darthur, book III:

    And whan he cam ageyne he sayd / O my whyte herte / me repenteth that thow art dede / […] / and thy deth shalle be dere bought and I lyue / and anone he wente in to his chamber and armed hym / and came oute fyersly / & there mette he with syr gauayne / why haue ye slayne my houndes said syr gauayn / for they dyd but their kynde

    (please add an English translation of this quotation)

Removed / moved to Middle English by Astova. J3133 (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Definitely exists in modern English, although OED labels it "now rare" and mainly northern/Scottish in later use. This, that and the other (talk) 09:12, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

cited Kiwima (talk) 02:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 05:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)