Talk:pile-on

Verb

Used both as verb and as noun.

Please, discuss here.

Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 02:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I assumed the "verb" label was an error—I'll RFV it instead of just removing it. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 03:17, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Mr. Granger (talk • contribs), perhaps we could engage in talk page discussion, here on this talk page, before escalating to that step? -- Cirt (talk) 03:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

RFV discussion: October 2015–July 2016

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pile-on

Rfv-sense: alternative spelling of the verb (not noun) pile on. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 03:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Done, I've added three (3) citations. Mr. Granger (talk • contribs), it would have been appreciated if we could have discussed, and researched this, together, at the entry's talk page, rather than you choosing to escalate. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 03:49, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the quotations, but none of them support the challenged spelling. All three are of the spelling "pile on", not "pile-on". —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 03:54, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to exclude spellings in search results. Searches even in quotes for "pile-on" reveal numerous results for "pile on", and I don't know how to exclude one or the other. Can you help me, Mr. Granger (talk • contribs), please? -- Cirt (talk) 04:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

While we're at it, how common is the hyphenless spelling compared to the hyphenated spelling for the noun? I'd expect the noun to be usually spelled with the hyphen and the verb to be usually spelled with a space. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 09:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

@Cirt It's true that Google Books search ignores punctuation. You might have some success searching for "pileon"—sometimes Google Books mistakenly joins the two parts of a hyphenated word. In some cases the hyphenated form of a word is used in different contexts from the form with a space (such as gamma ray vs. gamma-ray), in which case you can filter using those contexts, but I don't know if that will work in this case. Beyond that, you might be able to find some hyphenated results just by looking through a lot of results with spaces until you finally come across one with a hyphen. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 13:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

That is helpful, but not encouraging, thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 16:11, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Try using COCA at BYU. AFAICR they make the distinction we need and either could be considered a durable archive or take their material from durably archived sources. DCDuring TALK 16:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

• RFV failed: no attesting quotations found to support the verb sense. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)