Talk:presume

From Wiktionary, the free dictionary
Latest comment: 12 years ago by -sche in topic RFV
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Doesn't the entry miss the meaning (verb) "make ... a pre-condition", like "innovation's precondition is investment" = "innovation presumes investment".90.190.225.121 12:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

RFV[edit]

The following discussion has been moved from Wiktionary:Requests for verification.

This discussion is no longer live and is left here as an archive. Please do not modify this conversation, but feel free to discuss its conclusions.


Rfv-sense: "To give some evidence of." The example sentence is Paw prints in the snow presume a visit from next door's cat. This sense isn't in the OED and I don't recognise it. Ƿidsiþ 07:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

The example is a literary trick that I don't know how to name specifically. It's the person viewing the prints who's making the presumption. DAVilla 09:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps hypallage, though our definition seems to be only of a subset of the general phenomenon. DCDuring TALK 18:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes...but the issue is whether (deprecated template usage) presume is actually used this way in the wild. Ƿidsiþ 11:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Indeed, some scholarly articles suggest that "hypallage" is a productive lexical process, like metonymy, metaphor, etc. DCDuring TALK 11:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Sense removed, quotation kept. - -sche (discuss) 02:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)Reply