Talk:vaulting school

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New sense1 added by User:Beobach972: school at which one practises vaulting. This "sense" strikes me as a contrived SoP combination of a noun and a modifier which has no real-world usage. Can anyone come up with 3 citations for this sense? The template {{&lit}} should be used more judiciously than this. -- Ghost of WikiPedant 17:54, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

There seem to be four hits between google news archive:"vaulting school" gymnastics and [1], not including hits for "pole vaulting school". Unfortunately, I can't see most of them.​—msh210℠ (talk) 19:07, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

AFAICT those aren't all in the same sense: in two I think it means a school for Equestrian vaulting, and in the other two it's in "strong vaulting school" (a school that's strong on the vault) and "best vaulting school in the NCAA" (the NCAA school that's the best on the vault). I wouldn't have a problem with just “{{&lit}}” as a def, but I'm not sure that we can support any specific non-idiomatic gloss, and I don't think it's worth trying to do so. —Ruakh_TALK 20:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

This is one of the few 1811 DVT words (all of which I have been systematically checking) that is used outside of dictionaries in not only its literal but also its purported idiomatic sense (brothel). Both senses are little-used, but I've cited each sense (some citations were already provided for the unquestioned "brothel" sense). In modern use, it seems most commonly to refer to pole-vaulting; older use is divided between the brothel sense and a non-sexual but unclear literal sense (and older mentions are overwhelmingly of the sexual sense). — Beobach 21:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Beobach972 has been as busy as a beobeaver adding old-tyme citations about legit Brit vaulting schools to the entry. I'm not faulting his vaulting, but I've stumbled upon what seems to be evidence for another sense:

• 2000, Andrea Finkelstein, "Nicholas Barbon and the Quality of Infinity", History of Political Economy 32.1 (2000) 83-10, p. 95:

  He [Nicholas Barbon] was even the proprietor of several unwholesome or downright tawdry establishments, having converted Exeter House “into houses and tenements for tavernes, ale houses, cooks-shoppes, and vaulting schooles,” and its riverside garden “into wharfes for brewers and woodmongers.”

Followed by p. 95n28:

A "vaulting school" was a school for learning to mount a horse with a vault (a piece of equipment used most frequently by women).

-- Ghost of WikiPedant 21:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps "The template {{&lit}} should be used more judiciously than this." is the relevant one. Which would be an RFD issue. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• Cited, struck. Feel free to raise at RFD if you don't like it. Ƿidsiþ 09:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)