Template talk:hu-conj-ok

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We need to distinguish ránt and lát: both have rántott and látott, but ránottam, láttam. Is it possible with this template? Qorilla 11:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

This template will not be able to handle verbs ending in -nt since they use an additional linking vowel even in their infinitives. We need a similar solution as for verbs ending in -ít. A new series of templates should be created named hu-conj-ok-nt, hu-conj-ek-nt. --Panda10 11:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Somewhat obsolete/literary -ik forms as an option

@Panda10 It would be good if történjék could be listed at történik (aside from történjen, of course). I suppose there are a handful of other -ik verbs as well where their type can affect the imperative (or occasionally even the conditional) forms. Váljék egészségére, szíveskedjék, nyugodjék békében etc. Adam78 (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@Adam78: I made the change. Please take a look and let me know if this is what you wanted. Panda10 (talk) 18:23, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

It's perfect, thank you very much. By the way, wouldn't it be better to deactivate the first and second person forms of this verb and other verbs that are only used in the impersonal sense? Én nem nagyon történek, szerintem te se nagyon történsz, mi nemigen történünk, ti se történtek igazán. Adam78 (talk) 23:48, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@Adam78: That might need a custom template. Can you list a few other verbs with this structure? Panda10 (talk) 16:14, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Havazik, villámlik, esteledik and perhaps other time & weather verbs, as well as kiderül, kitudódik are the ones that come into my mind at the moment. Adam78 (talk) 17:31, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Adam78: After looking into this a little more, I think we should leave them as they are now. The first and second person forms can still be used in literature, poetry, or just humorously. Examples can be found in Google. Panda10 (talk) 18:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Panda10, @Adam78 I know I'm a week late to the party, and I wasn't invited anyhow, but it occured to me that we could handle this in a way as to please all, see an example here: ecoar ("to echo", a defective verb in Portuguese). All it takes is to create a copy of the regular conjugation template with colored captions for the atypical first- and second-person forms (we can dispense with the hover-over highlight). I think it should be rather easy to implement. Now, I personally don't much mind one way or the other, so I leave it to you to decide.--84.236.127.9 09:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Dear Dynamic IP, you are always welcome to participate in our conversations, we just don't know how to invite you. :( I'd like to see a demo template of your suggestion. I assume you don't have to modify the existing templates, only make a copy of one template and modify that. And that would be a custom template for a single verb, correct? Panda10 (talk) 15:07, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Panda10, thank you for your kind words, they are appreciated, truly :) . Now let me state that I am no programmer, and I don't think I myself could do this. I mostly just copy and paste code found elsewhere. With that in mind, I looked into it, and I think what needs to be modified is a copy of the template {{hu-conj}}. I could change the colors for the very basic cases, but not for any line starting with an exclamation mark, nor for blue links. You can try it yourself if you add the code in bold to the beginning of any line that starts with a bracketed number, for example:

| style="color:#cccccc" | {{{9}}}

If it worked, basically we'd have a double of the following conjugation templates: {{hu-conj}}, {{hu-conj-ok}} etc., {{hu-conj-unified}} and {{hu-conj-unified/doWork}}. And the entries of defective verbs would refer to these. The downside is there would be no way to know if a link points to an already created page or no. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. --84.236.127.9 19:18, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure. Looking at the amount of work that this would involve, we might as well just create a custom template for the above mentioned verbs with a dash for each unnecessary inflected form. But as I said in a previous statement, I'd rather leave them as is. These forms still can be found in literature, fairy tales and poetry. For example, Az éjszaka álmomban havaztam. Or: Havaztam volna magam is - / de lám, hogy megeredt! Or: Süvítő szél vagyok, esőt fakasztok, villámlok. They are rare, but still possible. Thanks for looking into it, though! Panda10 (talk) 20:13, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. --94.21.49.130 21:07, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Questions

Where can I find the lua module used by this template? K batsuren (talk) 11:15, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

The Hungarian conjugation templates do not use Lua. Panda10 (talk) 16:23, 4 September 2020 (UTC)