Category talk:Proto-Western-Romance
Latest comment: 14 days ago by 92.218.236.20 in topic Preservation of voiceless stops
Preservation of voiceless stops
[edit]Aragonese and Gascon dialects near the Pyrenees do not have voicing. Can this be an archaism from PWR? Kwékwlos (talk) 14:18, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- It certainly can be.
- However, this is also possible (for all of the below, assume intervocalic position):
- 1) /pp tt kk/ - /p t k/ - /b d ɡ/
- 2) /pp tt kk/ - /p t k/ - /β ð ɣ/
- 3) /pp tt kk/ - /b d ɡ/ - /β ð ɣ/
- 4) /p t k/ - /b d ɡ/ - /β ð ɣ/ (Proto-Western-Romance)
- Finally, in the Pyrenean zone, intervocalic /b d ɡ/ merge into degeminated /p t k/.
- We know that original /pp tt kk/ and /p t k/ did eventually merge in Aragonese- the only novelty above is positing that the latter voiced prior to the merger.
- It does assume a circular voicing-devoicing development, but it resolves a great deal of awkwardness in the broader Romance context. Nicodene (talk) 14:31, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Circular development is not a problem as such, but it seems to me that devoicing of intervocalic stops would be highly unusual in the Romance context, wouldn't it? 92.218.236.20 18:06, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Leonese preservation of final -e
[edit]While most Western Romance dialects lose final -e after certain consonants, such as r, Leonese appears to have conserved final -e. Kwékwlos (talk) 02:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)