Reconstruction talk:Proto-Germanic/stenaną
Latest comment: 11 years ago by Leasnam in topic stenanan
stenanan
[edit]Should the original form (parent) of this strong verb be *stinanan (stan/stun-/stunanz)? Leasnam (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- The Old English descendant is stinan, a strong verb (stan/stun-/gestunen) as expected. Old English stēnan is weak. Leasnam (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The change e > i only happened when the -n was at the end of the same syllable; followed by another consonant in other words. So if there was only a single -n- like here, it didn't happen. In Old English the change was extended to happen before all nasals, but that's not a general Germanic change. Compare also *nemanan from the same class, which also has -i- in OE. —CodeCat 18:15, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ur right. I moved it in wrength. Leasnam (talk) 18:17, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- The OE verb tenses as stin-/stan/stān- (> stēnan)/gestunen. Leasnam (talk) 18:26, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- Etymologiebank.nl says that "stenan" was also strong in OE. Is that true? —CodeCat 18:27, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- I believe stenan and stinan are the same; just variants of one another. However, a very reliable source I have (OEME) only lists stinan. I guess it's both. Leasnam (talk) 18:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- Etymologiebank.nl says that "stenan" was also strong in OE. Is that true? —CodeCat 18:27, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- The OE verb tenses as stin-/stan/stān- (> stēnan)/gestunen. Leasnam (talk) 18:26, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ur right. I moved it in wrength. Leasnam (talk) 18:17, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The change e > i only happened when the -n was at the end of the same syllable; followed by another consonant in other words. So if there was only a single -n- like here, it didn't happen. In Old English the change was extended to happen before all nasals, but that's not a general Germanic change. Compare also *nemanan from the same class, which also has -i- in OE. —CodeCat 18:15, 15 January 2013 (UTC)