Reconstruction talk:Proto-Japonic/pantuy

*paduy or *pantuy

Most current researches posited that all voiced plosives in Old Japanese were pre-nasalized voiceless plosives, so may we extrapolate pre-nasalization back all the way to Proto-Japonic?

Adjective derivative padukasi

@Mellohi!, my research to date has led me to believe that pretty much all the -ashii adjectives in modern Japanese derive from verbal stems in the -a ending (often called the 未然形 (mizenkei)) + adjective-forming suffix -si. See also 懐かしい (natsukashii) from verb 懐く (natsuku), 好ましい (konomashii) from verb 好む (konomu), 難しい (muzukashii, older mutsukashii) ultimately from 憤く (mutsuku).

As such, modern JA 恥ずかしい (hazukashii), given older spelling はづかしい, implies a derivation from verb はづく. Granted, I cannot find evidence for this as an independent term. However, I also note that はづかし was already attestable in the Man'yōshū, raising the possibility that the verb はづく may have fallen out of use already by that point. Alternatively, the implied はづく could represent an earlier contraction of はぢ + つく.

Either way, without textual evidence for the existence of *paduka, or at least more directly implying its existence, I don't think this belongs in the entry.

Cheers, ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 18:53, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, the -ka seems to be a Japanese innovation - it should indeed have been removed. mellohi! (僕の乖離) 15:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)