Talk:часть

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@Wanjuscha:, @Victar:, going totally unsourced here, so forgive me; but is this word related to Proto-Celtic *kʷesdis? False cognates? Djkcel (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

@Djkcel: I don't know the BSL cognates for this, but probably not. Based on PSL *čęstь, the PIE root would be something like *k⁽ʷ⁾endʰ-. -Victar (talk) 17:23, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Djkcel (talk) 19:43, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
I did find one: “часть” in The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th edition, Boston, Mass.: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2016, →ISBN., but I've been told that "Watkins isn't very reliable." page 46 Djkcel (talk) 19:46, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@Djkcel, see the Russian version of this entry which supports the PSL reconstruction. FYI, you need to ping me each time if you want me to see your replies.--Victar (talk) 20:56, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
And yes, for proto reconstructions, you need to abandon all those layman dictionaries and use the heavy hitters, like the Leiden series. --Victar (talk) 20:59, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@Victar: Awesome, never knew that Matasović, Beekes, and de Vaan were part of a complete series like this. Thanks! Djkcel (talk) 15:25, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@Djkcel, Victar: Calvert Watkins was one of the leading Indo-Europeanists of his day, I wouldn't write him off that quickly. However, I can't find часть in the AHD, so I don't know what you saw there. I do agree, however, that this is unlikely to be related to *kʷesdis. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 13:56, 26 February 2018 (UTC)