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cf. Klimov, G. A. (1998) Etymological Dictionary of the Kartvelian Languages (Trends in linguistics. Documentation; 16), New York, Berlin: Mouton de Gruyter, page 89 კვარია (talk) 19:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- @კვარია: this does not have a good native etymology, so it could indeed be a Kartvelian borrowing. Please create the Proto-Kartvelian. Vahag (talk) 08:18, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- By the way there are words of similar structure in Nakh-Daghestani family. And also compare Ancient Greek χωλός (khōlós), which could be (with weird vozcalism) the source of Mingrelian ქულა (kula). And while you're burried with Pontic Greek books, could you check how that word looks like in Pontic? :) კვარია (talk) 08:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- @კვარია: Pontic does not have that word. Apart from the Ancient Greek and Mingrelian, there is also Northeast Caucasian (𐕄𐔰𐔾𐔰 (ḳala)) as you said, and also Ossetian къуылых (k’°ylyx). Abkhaz а-кәылԥаа (a-kʷʼəlpaa) is also somewhat similar. By the way, Klimov says კელი (ḳeli, “lame”) doesn't exist. Can you check? Acharyan's source must be Chubinov. Vahag (talk) 21:04, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- As per my comments here, I didn't find it back then too. However It seems to be mentioned in this version of Saba (but not in the pdf we're using which is slgihtly different), it's at the very bottom. I can also find it in Khevsur dictionary by Aleksi Chinchirauli, but it doesn't give usage example and it credits Avtandil Arabuli (who was an editor of that work) so I don't know it could have been backformed the verbs... So imho it does look semi-ghosty
- Abkhaz looks similar to Mingrelian ქულაფა (kulapa, “lameness”), but k ~ ḳ is maybe strange. კვარია (talk) 21:42, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- @კვარია: Pontic does not have that word. Apart from the Ancient Greek and Mingrelian, there is also Northeast Caucasian (𐕄𐔰𐔾𐔰 (ḳala)) as you said, and also Ossetian къуылых (k’°ylyx). Abkhaz а-кәылԥаа (a-kʷʼəlpaa) is also somewhat similar. By the way, Klimov says კელი (ḳeli, “lame”) doesn't exist. Can you check? Acharyan's source must be Chubinov. Vahag (talk) 21:04, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- By the way there are words of similar structure in Nakh-Daghestani family. And also compare Ancient Greek χωλός (khōlós), which could be (with weird vozcalism) the source of Mingrelian ქულა (kula). And while you're burried with Pontic Greek books, could you check how that word looks like in Pontic? :) კვარია (talk) 08:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)