Talk:出

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Difference from [edit]

Can it be explained in the entry what the difference is from ? 24.93.170.200 05:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

see below. -- A-cai 22:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciations[edit]

Can it be explained in the entry in which cases the two different pronunciations are used? 24.93.170.200 05:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

This was an error, which has now been fixed. -- A-cai 22:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Etymology[edit]

Can an etymology for the character be added (i.e. why the character consists of one mountain on top of the other, but means "to go out"? 24.93.170.200 05:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I will add an etymology for you. -- A-cai 22:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Ticker removed[edit]

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Needs etymology[edit]

Needs etymology/graphical significance (i.e. why the character is spelled the way it is). 24.93.190.134 07:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I will add an etymology for you. -- A-cai 22:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Ticker[edit]

Automated notification of a problem on Commons: with a media file used here:

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Removed from page Robert Ullmann 22:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Needs etymology[edit]

Needs etymology/graphical significance (i.e. why the character is spelled the way it is). 24.93.190.134 07:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I will add it. -- A-cai 22:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Difference from [edit]

Can it be explained what the difference is from ? 24.93.170.200 05:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)



出岀




Here's how you could have answered the question on your own: copy the characters into your favorite word processor, and then increase the font size. -- A-cai 12:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Of course I had already done that. They appear to be the exactly same character, with a different font (one more "modern" looking and one older-looking). The fact remains that we have two separate entries, both of which says "see the other one," and neither of which explains why there are two entries for these two nearly-identical characters. Both have definitions that are nearly, though not exactly, identical. Thus, my original question hasn't really been answered. I'm asking it, as I ask all questions here, not just because I have the question, but because others may/will have the same question in the future, so the entries should leave no ambiguity in this regard. Thanks, 24.93.170.200 17:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, it's really clear now. 24.93.170.200 20:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Most of your questions are legitimate, and should be answered by someone. If you continue to ask them, I may need to create two new categories called Category:Questions about Chinese entries and Category:Chinese entries needing more detail. Category:Chinese words needing attention was intended for entries which are improperly formatted. -- A-cai 22:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I think leaving the questions on the discussion pages of the character entries, with "zh-attention," will work fine. The workload is too big, you're right, but if it takes longer to address the questions at talk pages, the "zh-attention" will still be there for you (or another Chinese-language expert) to attend to, at some date in the future. 24.93.170.200 22:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Prioritizing[edit]

Let me try another approach. Given that I'm only one person, with a limited amount of time, it is important that I prioritize. How do you think my time here is best spent?
  1. Answering questions that are posted on talk pages?
  2. Cleaning up improperly formatted entries?
  3. Create entries for words that are in the Appendix:HSK list of Mandarin words?
  4. Create entries for words that you have posted in Wiktionary:Requested articles:Chinese?
  5. Create entries for words which are commonly seen, but not included in Appendix:HSK list of Mandarin words?
  6. Add information to the existing 17,000+ single character entries? (regardless of how obscure the character is, or whether it can be displayed by a standard font)
  7. Add useful idioms and proverbs?
  8. Create entries for words that appear in classic works of prose or poetry? (for example, I am creating definitions for each word found in Romance of the Three Kingdoms)
If you can rate each of the above on a scale of 1 to 5 (1 being the most important), it may help me to better understand your needs. -- A-cai 22:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
It's up to you. All those tasks are important. It's built brick by brick, and if it takes weeks or months to get to discussion page queries, so be it. That's what the "zh-attention" tag is for, I guess. Once they're answered, the tag can be removed--whether that's sooner or later. 24.93.170.200 22:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Let's try again. That's not an acceptable answer. Adding information about some obscure character (that only two people in the world care about) cannot possibly be of equal importance to, let's say, creating example sentences for beginning words (I'm sure there are 100s of beginning Mandarin students who would appreciate it). Please, help me to help you. I'm only asking for your opinion, I'm not asking for you to sign a legal contract for services rendered. -- A-cai 22:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I answered honestly, and will do so again: I think all those things you listed are of great importance. In my opinion, no single element of the language or its written form is less important than another. 24.93.170.200 22:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm posting this one at Wiktionary:Beer Parlour. I would like to know if others feel as you do. -- A-cai 22:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)