Talk:𑀨𑀼𑀮𑁆𑀮

@Bhagadatta Thanks for creating the entry. Is there a reason why you didn't add {{syn|pra-mah|𑀧𑀼𑀧𑁆𑀨}} and {{desc|omr|𑘣𑘳𑘩}} + {{desc|mr|फूल}}, or did you just forget to do so? Kutchkutch (talk) 08:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kutchkutch: At the time of my creating the page, I only had Turner's dictionary & the Prakrit's DSAL dictionary handy because all the other resources were bookmarked/downloaded on another device & I was a bit too lazy to go looking for those other resources on this one. So there was insufficient evidence for me to add the Sauraseni entry, although I don't at all doubt that the term existed in Sauraseni; I just couldn't source it then. And you're right about the second part, I did forget to add the synonym and Old and Modern Marathi descendants. The latter two are  Done now. What do you think about the Sauraseni entry? -- Bhagadatta^(talk) 09:47, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Bhagadatta: At {{R:inc:Pischel|125}}, while describing vocalic sandhi it says:

M. […] phullelā = phulla + elā

So that's evidence that the Maharastri term exists.

At {{R:inc:Woolner|176}}, there's an Avanti Prakrit quote with 𑀨𑀼𑀮𑁆𑀮 (phulla):

"Āvanti."] and Dākṣiṇātyā Extract No, 28.

Vīraka and Candanaka (Mṛcch. Act VI)

Vīrakaḥ

𑀅𑀭𑁂 𑀭𑁂 𑀅𑀭𑁂 𑀚𑀅-𑀚𑀅𑀫𑀸𑀡-𑀘𑀁𑀤𑀡𑀅-𑀫𑀁𑀕𑀮-𑀨𑀼𑀮𑁆𑀮-𑀪𑀤𑁆𑀤-𑀧𑁆𑀧𑀫𑀼𑀳𑀸—

are re are jaa-jaamāṇa-caṃdaṇaa-maṃgala-phulla-bhadda-ppamuhā—

Unless 𑀨𑀼𑀮𑁆𑀮 (phulla) has another meaning, the term might exist in Avanti Prakrit. However, there seems to be no evidence of Sauraseni attestation (yet). Although creating Sauraseni Prakrit *𑀨𑀼𑀮𑁆𑀮 (*phulla) might be a solution, at Talk:𑀦𑀸𑀫 we agreed:

I don't think any of us are proficient enough in Prakrit to do anything approaching original research yet. Kutchkutch (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kutchkutch: I agree. Now prk-avt doesn't have a single lemma yet and this could be its first lemma ever but the fact that it could have another meaning occured to me too. I'm not really comfortable with guessing the meaning, not in the case of a language which is as poorly documented as Avanti Prakrit. Our whole issue stems from the tendency of linguists to consider "Prakrit" as a language based on the Maharashtri variety and the other forms (viz. Ardhamagadhi, Magadhi, Sauraseni et al) as secondary, dialectal variants of it. -- Bhagadatta^(talk) 11:47, 7 January 2021 (UTC)