Talk:-кам

Derived suffixes, or not?

Hi @Bezimenen,

There are a couple expressive verbal suffixes that sound like they might be derived from -кам (-kam), but I'm not sure:

• -уркам (-urkam): e.g. живуркам (živurkam), пишуркам (pišurkam)
• -ичкам (-ičkam): e.g. боричкам (boričkam), ровичкам (rovičkam), гъделичкам (gǎdeličkam)

Do you have an etymology for those?

Thanks,

Chernorizets (talk) 21:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

They seem to be from the same family of suffixes as titular -кам (-kam). The first case is based on the elusive extension *-or-/*-ur- (probably nominative in nature?) found in говоря (govorja), dial. чекоря (čekorja), катурям (katurjam). In principle, a r-marker is found in PIE middle eventive conjugation, however, I don't know if that has any relation with Slavic *-or-/*-ur-. The second is probably a compound of *-ikъ (diminutive suffix) +‎ *-ьkati (or something of this sort). Equivalently, it could be viewed as a denominal factitive of the adjectival suffix -ичък (-ičǎk) +‎ -ам (-am). 2A00:23C7:9C97:8201:B8FC:DC01:6143:CE82 21:50, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll add them as derived terms.

Chernorizets (talk) 00:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)