Talk:Monogenes

3rd declension?

@I'm so meta even this acronym, do we not think this is correct?
Template:la-decl-3rd-1E—JohnC5 18:59, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

nom_sg_n could also be monogenes with a short vowel like in Greek. Dictionaries have some neuters from Greek ending in <-es> as -es and some as -ēs. But there's most likely no proof for either vowel length. Similary voc_sg_m could also be monogenes like in Greek. -Ko·mine (talk) 19:15, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

@JohnC5, Ko·mine: For context, I should explain that I created this because it is seemingly the only adjective ending in -genes listed in L&S; I needed a basis for declining and attesting the New Latin monocytogenēs. Unfortunately, L&S, Gaffiot, and Karl Ernst Georges’ 1918 Ausführliches lateinisch-deutsches Handwörterbuch all define it as a masculine adjective only (meaning they do not recognise feminine or neuter forms); for my purposes, it might've well have been a noun. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 08:59, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

@JohnC5, Ko·mine: Judging by what those authorities write, this word only occurs in Tertullian adversus Valentinianos. I've quoted all his uses in that work. What I infer from that is that this word is a proper noun, not an adjective (see the new definition I've given it), and that, since it only occurs in the nominative Monogenēs and the accusative Monogenem, it declines like a normal third-declension noun. I'm sorry I had to undo your work, but I believe what we now have is accurate. There may also exist an adjective of the form *monogenēs, but I'd like to see evidence of it if it does, since the existence of the synonymous ūnigenitus would render it redundant. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 09:40, 16 January 2017 (UTC)