Talk:Thomas
Latest comment: 8 years ago by Watabib in topic RFC discussion: July 2016
Translingual
[edit]A note for anyone with the time, the various entries only covering the name should be merged to a Translingual entry. LokiClock 09:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- No, they are kept separate on purpose. Different pronunciations and meanings - not biblical or not a surname - plus in dozens of Latin scrpit languages Thomas is not a name at all.--Makaokalani 14:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Different meanings of the word and instances of Thomas that are not male first names derived from the Biblical person should go under different entries, that's a given. These are largely redundant, and it would be better in my opinion if this can be shown, especially leaving only the entries with nonredundant information (such as pronunciation or other definitions/etymologies). LokiClock 20:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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The accusative is also "Thomam" besides "Thoman". Same might be true for many other Latin nouns in as.
- Here is a (Spanish?) grammar which has Thomas, Thomae, Thomae, Thoman and Thomam, Thoma, Thoma (by common Latin case order nom., gen., dat., acc., voc., abl.).
- Wikisource's Vulgate has the form "Thomam" in Lucas and Marcus.
- Wikisource's search has many results for "Lucam" in Latin texts.
As for the vowel length, maybe it's
- Thōmās, Thōmām keeping the length
- Thōmās, Thōmam with Greek nominative but Latin accusative (which fits to Latin genitive and dative)
- Thōmas, Thōmam - though maybe Late, Middle or New Latin, compare with German Thomas [ˈtoːmas] and Lucas/Lukas [ˈluːkas] which (a) should have their length from Latin or (b) could have been used in New Latin but with German vowel length.