Talk:idiomatic
This definition is wrong, it is worded as a noun definition. "idiomatic" does not signify "a phrase". — Hippietrail 11:36, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The word is infact an adjectif, meaning "in accordance with the idiom(s) of a language, dialect, etc." An idiom can be either (1) a language or (2)a phrase or sentence whose meaning is not obvious through knowledge of individual meanings of the constituent words (ex. in order to ) [User Giofussy]
Importance[edit]
Careful here. This word is used in the definition of what content belongs on wiktionary. Mathiastck 00:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
That IPA[edit]
...looks seriously wrong to me. It's not pronounced "aidomatic", is it...? I'll change it and you can revert it if I'm wrong. 80.41.196.77 19:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Sourced definitions[edit]
Sourced definitions of idiomatic:
- Of or pertaining to, or conforming to, the mode of expression peculiar to a language; as, an idiomatic meaning; an idiomatic phrase.[1]
- Of, relating to or conforming to idiom.[2][3]
- Specific to the style of a particular group or people.[4][2]
- Sounding natural.[5][6]
To support the above, let us also source idiom from Webster 1913:
- 1. The syntactical or structural form peculiar to any language; the genius or cast of a language. Idiom may be employed loosely and figuratively as a synonym of language or dialect, but in its proper sense it signifies the totality of the general rules of construction which characterize the syntax of a particular language and distinguish it from other tongues.[7]
- 2. An expression conforming or appropriate to the peculiar structural form of a language.
- 3. A combination of words having a meaning peculiar to itself and not predictable as a combination of the meanings of the individual words, but sanctioned by usage; as, an idiomatic expression; less commonly, a single word used in a peculiar sense. It is not by means of rules that such idioms as the following are made current: "I can make nothing of it." "He treats his subject home." Dryden. "It is that within us that makes for righteousness." M. Arnold.[8][9][10][11]
- 4. The phrase forms peculiar to a particular author; as, written in his own idiom.
- 5. Dialect; a variant form of a language.[12][13]
Further reading:
References:
- ^ “idiomatic”, in Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary, Springfield, Mass.: G. & C. Merriam, 1913, →OCLC.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 “idiomatic”, in Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary, Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, 1996–present.
- ^ "idiomatic" in WordNet 3.1, Princeton University, 2011.
- ^ “idiomatic”, in The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th edition, Boston, Mass.: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2016, →ISBN.
- ^ “idiomatic” (US) / “idiomatic” (UK) in Macmillan English Dictionary.
- ^ “idiomatic”, in Cambridge English Dictionary, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire: Cambridge University Press, 1999–present.
- ^ “idiom”, in The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th edition, Boston, Mass.: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2016, →ISBN. - #2
- ^ “idiom”, in Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary, Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, 1996–present. - #1
- ^ “idiom”, in The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th edition, Boston, Mass.: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2016, →ISBN. - #1
- ^ “idiom” (US) / “idiom” (UK) in Macmillan English Dictionary. - #1
- ^ “idiom”, in Cambridge English Dictionary, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire: Cambridge University Press, 1999–present. - #1
- ^ “idiom”, in Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary, Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, 1996–present. - #2a
- ^ “idiom”, in The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th edition, Boston, Mass.: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2016, →ISBN. - #3