Template talk:es-verb form of/subtense-name

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Documentation[edit]

Usage[edit]

This template:

  • is not intended to be invoked directly from entry pages; rather, it is designed to be invoked from various other of {{es-form of (verb)}}'s sub-templates.
  • evaluates to a snippet of text like "informal second-person singular"; templates that invoke it generally do so twice, once in computing text to be displayed and once in computing a category name.
  • takes three arguments:
    • {{{person}}} — should be first, second, third, or impersonal. (impersonal suppresses all return text, the idea being that it's pointless to say "third-person singular" in describing a form of an impersonal verb.)
    • {{{number}}} — should be omitted if {{{person}}} is impersonal; otherwise, should be singular or plural.
    • {{{formal}}} — if {{{person}}} is second, should be yes (for usted(es)) or no (for tú/vosotr@s); otherwise, should be omitted.
  • can evaluate to a partial snippet, such as just "first-person" or just "plural", in the event of incomplete information.
  • never adds an article to Category:Requests for cleanup (Spanish verb form), since doing so would make the template unusable for computing a category name.

Discussion[edit]

Links to Appendix:Spanish pronouns[edit]

This template should display with a link to Appendix:Spanish pronouns to explain, among other things, how the functionally second person pronouns usted and ustedes are used with the grammatically third person verb forms. Rod (A. Smith) 17:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Second/third person[edit]

The way this template treats the functionally second-person, grammatically third-person pronouns usted and ustedes is inconsistent with Spanish grammar. hablan, habló, hable, etc. are not second person verb forms, despite the fact that they are used with Ud. and Uds.. Claiming that they are second person verb forms is like claiming that English verb inflections ending in -s are second person verb forms because they are used with Your Honor, Your Majesty, Your Highness, and the like. Rod (A. Smith) 17:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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