Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2015-12/Production
Latest comment: 8 years ago by Daniel Carrero in topic Text of the vote
I'm not sure what the point of this is. ELE already says "Some languages do have characteristics that require variation from the standard format. For links to these variations see Wiktionary:Language considerations.". And AASE already says it's policy, not modifiable without a vote, and it contains all you need to know about the Production section (which the proposed wording here does not contain or even link to, so this proposal seems not just pointless but actually detrimental).—msh210℠ (talk) 17:46, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- @msh210: You're right. I attempted to make WT:EL explain what is the production header, but that's really the job of WT:ASGN. But, at least, I would want to mention at WT:EL that we have "Production" and point readers to the appropriate policy. Do you think it's better now? --Daniel Carrero (talk) 09:38, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, much better. Now it's no longer detrimental. I still don't see that it has great value, but it has some.—msh210℠ (talk) 16:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- I think this is a useless addition to EL; different scripts have different requirements, but it's not this page's role to mention 'Production' as a header any more than it is to mention 'Root', even though Semitic languages need to have root entries like מ־ל־ך. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:13, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Root is mentioned in Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2015-12/Part of speech. Also "Lojban-specific parts of speech: Brivla, Cmavo, Gismu, Lujvo, Rafsi". I support making WT:EL mention all allowed headers. That way, one could program a bot more easily to categorize entries with nonstandard headers, if the list of allowed headers is readily available. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:17, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- But the entire point is that this page should be for human editors, not bots. We should humanise our policies and take bot regulations elsewhere. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:57, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, point taken about bots. I'd still want to see all headers mentioned in ELE, though. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 08:22, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Then again, I created Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2015-12/Headings with a list of accepted headings, which includes "Production", so I'm having second thoughts about this vote. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 09:29, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not so sure about that one either, but if it passes, this is definitely useless. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- I'm going to retract this vote. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 20:38, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not so sure about that one either, but if it passes, this is definitely useless. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Then again, I created Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2015-12/Headings with a list of accepted headings, which includes "Production", so I'm having second thoughts about this vote. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 09:29, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, point taken about bots. I'd still want to see all headers mentioned in ELE, though. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 08:22, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- But the entire point is that this page should be for human editors, not bots. We should humanise our policies and take bot regulations elsewhere. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:57, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Root is mentioned in Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2015-12/Part of speech. Also "Lojban-specific parts of speech: Brivla, Cmavo, Gismu, Lujvo, Rafsi". I support making WT:EL mention all allowed headers. That way, one could program a bot more easily to categorize entries with nonstandard headers, if the list of allowed headers is readily available. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:17, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Text of the vote
[edit]The text of this vote was:
- Voting on: Adding a section Production to WT:EL.
Proposed text:
- Production
"Production" is an additional heading used in entries for sign languages. See Wiktionary:About sign languages#Production.[1]
- Rerefences