Talk:哈
Mandarin readings[edit]
Can it be added in which contexts the various Mandarin readings are used? 24.29.228.33 06:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
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Rfv-sense: (1)"Pekingese; pug" (2)a surname that is pronounced with a level-tone. Dokurrat (talk) 16:55, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Surname Hā is given in 中華語文大辭典 (Chinese Linguipedia). — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 21:58, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Surname Hā is also found in 教育部重編國語辭典修訂本, with 哈銘 as an example. However, it seems like 哈銘's surname should be read as Hǎ instead. Now, there's also a surname 哈 used in the Song dynasty, as seen in 百家姓, but I'm not sure if it should be read as Hā or Hǎ. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 13:57, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've just checked 國語一字多音審訂表. The 1999 version (the one still in effect) does not mention the surname, but the 2012 revision draft says that the surname should be read as Hā. The 2012 revision isn't in effect yet, but I think it's safe to say that reading the surname as Hā is the standard in Taiwan. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 01:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Rfv failed for "Pekingese; pug" sense; Surname Hā kept. Dokurrat (talk) 13:50, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Dokurrat, Justinrleung Here's some information about the 哈 in 哈達 [1]; it seems to be in a similar situation to the 哈 you two were discussing here. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 03:28, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
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Rfv-sense: Sentence-final particle softening the request. @Geographyinitiative — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 15:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- I am sure have seen it discussed in fluff news articles this way, used in WeChat this way many times, and was also taught that it was used this way at least twice in Wuhan. Not as a real laugh, but kind of like a "ha" qingsheng at the end. Signals a flavor of authoritativeness. But this usage is apparently unknown in Taiwan. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 01:15, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- https://baike.baidu.com/item/语气词 单音节吧、罢、呗、啵、的、价、家、啦、来、唻、了、嘞、哩、咧、咯、啰、喽、吗、嘛、嚜、么（麽）、哪、呢、呐、否、呵、哈、不、兮、般、则、连、罗、给、噻、哉、呸、
- I see that @沈澄心 has added a quote from WeChat, but is that durably archived? — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 01:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung: Probably not. --沈澄心✉ 04:16, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Regardless of this quote, this should be cited. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 02:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- RFV passed. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 05:51, 28 March 2021 (UTC)