Talk:Táłtłʼááh Chʼosh Bitooh

Etymology

What is the etymology of this toponym? 71.66.97.228 20:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

táłtłʼááh chʼosh means shellfish, so it means something like "river of shellfish". It’s a calque of the Guaraní name "urugua" (shellfish) and "i" (river). —Stephen 23:33, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I think táłtłʼááh chʼosh should be linked as a single term in the etymology, rather than the literal meaning of each of the component words being given (this should be at the táłtłʼááh chʼosh entry. 71.66.97.228 07:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

That’s fine. —Stephen (Talk) 16:18, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

The problem is, does http://nv.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A1%C5%82t%C5%82%CA%BC%C3%A1%C3%A1h_ch%CA%BCosh really mean "shellfish" or does it mean a family of diving beetles? 71.66.97.228 20:13, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

It’s like the word shellfish, which has a certain meaning but can be extended to other meanings. Some people think it’s only clams, oysters and mussels, while others include shrimp, lobsters, crayfish and conchs. Literally it means chʼosh at the bottom of the water (diving bugs). Many kinds of chʼosh at the bottom of the water, including lobsters and crabs, have this as the main part of their names. But all by itself, it is used to mean the w:Dytiscidae. However, in the name Táłtłʼááh Chʼosh Bitooh, it refers to the various water chʼosh that have táłtłʼááh chʼosh as part of their names, such as the táłtłʼááh chʼosh ntsxaaígíí, táłtłʼááh chʼosh daadánígíí, táłtłʼááh chʼoshtsoh bideeneezí, táłtłʼááh chʼoshtsoh bideeteelí, but does not refer to the simple meaning of táłtłʼááh chʼosh, which is diving beetles. —Stephen (Talk) 20:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, so what is the Navajo term for shellfish, such as a fisherman, oceanographer, or someone going to the supermarket to buy seafood would use? I couldn't find a page for shellfish at nv:WP. 71.66.97.228 20:32, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

łóóʼ bitsʼaʼ dahólónígíí. —Stephen (Talk) 20:41, 25 November 2010 (UTC)