Talk:behavio(u)r
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To me, the only issue is can this be considered a word? Is this any better than behavior/behaviour, which I may note also contains no spaces. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- Remember he/she or (s)he? To me this isn't any different. -- Liliana • 20:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- Dunno what you mean by 'remember', neither of those has been nomination for deletion, have they? Mglovesfun (talk) 21:47, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- Connel called for their deletion back in 2006(!) here. - -sche (discuss) 22:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- Delete. I think this is very different from (s)he, which indicates not a spelling option, but a possible gender variation. This is no different from labor, which could also be spelled labour. There are literally thousands of words to which such indicators of spelling variations could be applied. bd2412 T 00:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Connel called for their deletion back in 2006(!) here. - -sche (discuss) 22:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- Dunno what you mean by 'remember', neither of those has been nomination for deletion, have they? Mglovesfun (talk) 21:47, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- I think (s)he (and s/he) deserves its entry. I also like he/she, but I don't know if I could articulate a cogent argument for it, given that I think behavior/behaviour doesn't deserve an entry because slashes can divide words just like spaces can, and I wouldn't want an entry for [[attested/unattested]] regardless of whether it was attested/unattested. I'm on the fence about behavio(u)r; I'm not a fan of it having an entry, but I don't see a cogent argument for deleting it. - -sche (discuss) 02:32, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- I had started to try to address this an hour or two ago and couldn't.
- I think the use of either a slash or a vertical bar (in a more geekish register) to indicate alternative words, morphemes or letters is part of orthographic practice. The characters can, in principle, link any two of these. The specific use of the slash in he/she just puts the term in the group of synonymous efforts to come up with a gender-free, but non-neuter, pronoun, not a mere concatenation of terms. It is the membership of the term in the synonym group that makes it a lexical item.
- The argument for (s)he is similar.
- The use of the parentheses in behavio(u)r seems distinct because it uses the parentheses to indicate an optional letter, little different form the generic case{s) of the use of parentheses. There is no shift in meaning from the the meanings of the constituent lexical items. DCDuring TALK 03:02, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Delete. There are several ways to give alternate spellings of the same word, and using parentheses is one of them. As -sche has already said, we don’t need behavior/behaviour either. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 08:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, Delete. There is no variety of English for which this is a word. Where would we stop? Would we include "crisps(chips)" and "sidewalk(pavement)"? Dbfirs 21:11, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Delete, not a word. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, Delete. There is no variety of English for which this is a word. Where would we stop? Would we include "crisps(chips)" and "sidewalk(pavement)"? Dbfirs 21:11, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Deleted. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:56, 7 January 2013 (UTC)