Talk:blame America first

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Unfortunately, this is a very real phrase that is used constantly by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage.

I don't know about the regional tag. It's certainly limited to a group of like-minded individuals - I guess you could say the "don't blame America, they hate us for our freedoms" crowd since the term is often "the 'blame America first' crowd" - but they aren't limited to any geographical region.

Yes, it appears to be genuine, but as vile a phrase as it may be, it's not our place to label the users extremists any more than it's their place to label the people they're talking about unpatriotic. Globish 20:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

It doesn't seem to be nearly as restricted as you suggest. It is surprising that it is hard to antedate the 1984 Kirkpatrick use. I only saw one prior mention (that turned out to be mis-dated) on b.g.c. --Connel MacKenzie 20:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it does seem to be much, much older, in this sense, e.g. http://news.google.com/archivesearch?as_ldate=1901&as_hdate=1983&q=%22blame+America+first%22&lnav=od&btnG=Search / http://www.newspaperarchive.com/LandingPage.aspx?type=glpnews&search=%22blame%20america%20first%22&img=40318924. --Connel MacKenzie 20:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

RFD discussion: April–September 2020[edit]

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Sum of parts, no? Blame + America + first. There could be a number of different insinuations depending on the speaker's intent. Not particularly lexical IMO. ---> Tooironic (talk) 03:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Delete, obviously.  --Lambiam 10:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Delete: SoP; no idiomatic meaning. — SGconlaw (talk) 11:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
America First is a movement, not an established political party, and "blame America first" is a tongue-and-cheek reference to that movement. Purplebackpack89 23:24, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
According to our entry America Firster, the term refers to an adherent of the marginal isolationist America First Party (1943–47), subsequently absorbed into the antisemitic Christian Nationalist Crusade. I think it is more commonly used for a member of the popular but short-lived America First Committee (1940–41), which did not survive Pearl Harbor.  --Lambiam 08:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Agree with Lambian. I am going to modify the definition. Purplebackpack89 18:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
BTW, I took the plunge and created America First. Purplebackpack89 19:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Deleted. - -sche (discuss) 02:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)Reply