Talk:bloody well
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Rfv-sense added by WF: "resolutely". The cite given doesn't match that (as the speaker wasn't saying he resolutely would blow himself up but rather was resolutely saying he'd blow himself up (I assume).) I suspect this is speedy-deletable.—msh210℠ (talk) 23:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- The synonymous damn well/damned well appears as a run-in at "damn" or "damned" in MWOnline, AHD Idioms, and RHU. DCDuring TALK 00:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- nice catch Dennis, your defn is much better than Romanb's. I'd say delete the original defn but keep the quotes. --DStirke 00:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that the entire expression is really an idiom. There are a large number of adverbial intensifiers (See Category:English intensifiers and Category:English degree adverbs) that can take the place of bloody, damned, and damn. Examples include fucking and various attentuations thereof, jolly, precious, etc. This is yet another case where perhaps the entry should be a redirect to either well#Adverb or to some kind of construction-grammar appendix. DCDuring TALK 00:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I added (deprecated template usage) goddamned well as a bit of a joke. ((deprecated template usage) goddamn well is another.) I think they're pretty SOPpy. Equinox ◑ 01:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- One could apparently find a WT:COALMINE justification for these. "Damnwell", "damnedwell", ""fuckingwell", "jollywell", and "bloodywell" would be so citable without going to groups AFAICT. "jollywell" would make it under the well-known work rule (Finnegans Wake) as well. "goddamwell would be citable with help from Groups. None of these represent more than a trifling frequency of usage relative to the open spelled compounds. It is left as an exercise for readers of this page to determine whether the interests of Wiktionary are best served by adding the entries or changing policy. DCDuring TALK 17:36, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- COALMINE was coming to mind recently when I ran across rednosed. I think it would better to just indicate at the word that the version with spaces is more common; i.e. define goddamwell as rare spelling of goddam well.--Prosfilaes 18:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- There is no other sense by the way so it should be rfv not rfv-sense. I don't think it means resolutely, isn't it just sort of an emphatic adverb? A bit like fucking (I fucking will, you fucking should) but a lot less vulgar. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- COALMINE was coming to mind recently when I ran across rednosed. I think it would better to just indicate at the word that the version with spaces is more common; i.e. define goddamwell as rare spelling of goddam well.--Prosfilaes 18:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- One could apparently find a WT:COALMINE justification for these. "Damnwell", "damnedwell", ""fuckingwell", "jollywell", and "bloodywell" would be so citable without going to groups AFAICT. "jollywell" would make it under the well-known work rule (Finnegans Wake) as well. "goddamwell would be citable with help from Groups. None of these represent more than a trifling frequency of usage relative to the open spelled compounds. It is left as an exercise for readers of this page to determine whether the interests of Wiktionary are best served by adding the entries or changing policy. DCDuring TALK 17:36, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I added (deprecated template usage) goddamned well as a bit of a joke. ((deprecated template usage) goddamn well is another.) I think they're pretty SOPpy. Equinox ◑ 01:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that the entire expression is really an idiom. There are a large number of adverbial intensifiers (See Category:English intensifiers and Category:English degree adverbs) that can take the place of bloody, damned, and damn. Examples include fucking and various attentuations thereof, jolly, precious, etc. This is yet another case where perhaps the entry should be a redirect to either well#Adverb or to some kind of construction-grammar appendix. DCDuring TALK 00:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- nice catch Dennis, your defn is much better than Romanb's. I'd say delete the original defn but keep the quotes. --DStirke 00:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
RFV failed, sense removed, cite moved to other sense. —RuakhTALK 20:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)