Talk:pool

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There's a slight problem with the article, because the two basic definitions of the noun, "small body of water" and "collective effort" are not etymologically related at all. The first is from Old English and beyond that its origins are disputed. The other meaning comes from Latin pullus "young of an animal" via French poule "hen, stake", related to the Indo-European root pau- "few, little". How is this best solved?

Peter Isotalo 09:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Etymologies[edit]

I found etymology for pool. http:// books.google.com/ books?id=hsRISNLSSHAC&pg=PT654&lpg=PT654 68.108.59.74 22:56, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology 1 is fully logical, only it is difficult to see how Breton POL could also be borrowed[1], like the Irish word[5]. Whether the Welsh and Cornish words are borrowed from English is also disputable[3]; but the initial 'p' in Proto-Celtic was lost before the invasions. A pre-Celtic root[3] is unlikely; but, due to these considerations a Celtic root[1] is inadmissible. However, compare Cornish BAL (ore mine) with the Proto-Indo-European[6] presented in the main entry. 18:03, 18 August 2015 Correction: Andrew H. Gray 09:17, 28 April 2020 (UTC) (UTC Andrew (talk) 

[0] means 'Absolutely not; [1] means 'Exceedingly unlikely'; [2] means 'Very dubious'; [3] means 'Questionable'; [4] means 'Possible'; [5] means 'Probable'; [6] means 'Likely'; [7] means 'Most Likely' or *Unattested; [8] means 'Attested'; [9] means 'Obvious' - only used for close matches within the same language or dialect, at linkable periods.

Andrew H. Gray 21:41, 4 November 2015 (UTC) Andrew (talk)

RFV discussion: November 2013–May 2014[edit]

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Rfv-sense:A group of nations for the purpose of a knockout tournament.

I don't think it is necessarily a group of nations, a group of teams would do too. I am unsure if it is called a knockout tournament while teams/nations are still playing in pools, perhaps the knockout stages are described as "direct knockout" or whatever. --80.114.178.7 17:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a straightforward mistake. Doesn't refer to the nations; doesn't have to be nations can be cities or people or animals (or objects I suppose, anything!) It refers to the group and not for a knockout tournament, but for a competition (I can't think who you'd use this outside of a competition, anyone?) Mglovesfun (talk) 18:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is often used for the initial stages of what will later become a knockout tournament. Also note that, at least sometimes, but I think often, the word "group" is used when the teams aren't national teams. Even other words are used when the pools are split geographically (e.g. to save travel time/expenses). --80.114.178.7 20:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think in most cases, there are at least two pools, Pool A and Pool B (the only exception I can think of is the medal round of the 1980 U.S. Hockey tournament). And, yes, there are some competitions that have two round robin stages Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 05:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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