Talk:rightwise

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This is presumably the adjective "clockwise" (or theoretically "righteous", ha):
  • 1954? 1942?, Will Durant, The Story of Civilization:
    Then, trumpeting, he entered the golden mansion, made a rightwise circle three times around his mother's bed, smote her right side, and appeared to enter her womb.
  • 1983, S. K. Gupta, Elephant in Indian Art and Mythology, page 32:
    He entered the golden mansion, made a rightwise circle three times round queen Maya's bed, smote her right side, and appeared to enter her womb.
  • 1993?, a translation of the Nidanakatha, published in Buddha and Christ: nativity stories and Indian traditions by Zacharias P. Thundy, page 87:
    In his trunk, which was like a silver rope, he held a white lotus, then trumpeting he entered the golden mansion, made a rightwise circle three times round his mother's bed, smote her right side and appeared to enter her womb.
- -sche (discuss) 19:21, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is presumably the adjective (etyl 1) "righteous" (or theoretically "clockwise", ha):
  • 2006, Stephen R. Lawhead, The Paradise War, page 422:
    "I may not be able to prevent what is to come, but at least I will see my king laid in his tomb in a rightwise manner."
In fact, it might be clockwise, given the "Silver Hand" quotation by the same author.
- -sche (discuss) 19:09, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The translator's (Rouse's) footnote on this translation of The Iliad says (deprecated template usage) rightways means clockwise. DCDuring TALK 20:05, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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RFV for the obsolete-spelling-of-righteous sense. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 00:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Equinox 00:36, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The 1563 quot. is identical to a passage from the 1407 Testimony of William Thorpe, cited in the Middle English section of that entry. Methinks them not independent. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 00:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Added another from 1915. Equinox 12:35, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. Would you say that the 1915 quot. represents a recoining? — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 15:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think the word (but not the whole sentence) came from Morte d'Arthur (which is pre-1500, i.e. not Modern English by our criterion), on which the 1915 book appears to have been based. Equinox 15:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't the 1915 quotation an adverb, though? wouldn't an adjective be "to be the rightwise king", rather than "to be rightwise king"? Cf. "to be rightly/righteously the king" vs "to be righteous king". I've added another modern citation. - -sche (discuss) 18:54, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It could be either. Consider "they would proclaim him true heir to the throne" (Paul Strohm). Equinox 19:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see how it could be an adjective, but I don't see how it could be an adjective meaning "righteous". If it is an adjective, it seems like it must mean "rightful, right". (Though I do see one hit on b.g.c. where "righteous king" certainly means "rightful king", and there are others where it might, so YMMV.) —RuakhTALK 19:37, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway, the RFVed sense has three unambiguous citations now. (All senses, in fact, have at least two citations.) - -sche (discuss) 21:11, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Struck (passed). - -sche (discuss) 03:00, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Verb?[edit]

Webster 1913 claims it can be an obsolete verb: "to make righteous". Equinox 02:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the adjective sense righteous. The verb might well exist in British religious literature. DCDuring TALK 04:46, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's apparently uncommon, but
  • circa 1960-1977, Ernst Käsemann, page 377, quoted in 1977 in Paul and Palestinian Judaism →ISBN on page 528:
    God's righteousness is what it must be as the power which rightwises the sinner, namely, God's victory over against the rebellion of the world.
  • 1988, The history and theology of the New Testament writings (Udo Schnelle), page 121:
    [] God's righteousness is shown in the rightwising of sinners.
  • 2011-12, Christopher Vasillopulos, The Triumph of Hate: The Political Theology of the Hitler Movement →ISBN, page 74:
    In other words, God rightwises or reconciles humans to Him by infusing them with faith.
I presume it's just an alternative form of righteous#Verb? - -sche (discuss) 16:48, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]