Talk:shutter shades

RFV discussion: May–June 2014

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shutter shades

• 1950 Popular Mechanics - photographic equipment for taking double exposures.

  http://books.google.com/books?id=vtgDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA132&dq=%22shutter+shade%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jnNkU8PRH9HpoAS4t4H4BA&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAA

• 1953 Modern Metals, volume 9 - window awning with fixed louvers.

  https://encrypted.google.com/books?id=A1U4AQAAIAAJ&q=%22shutter+shade%22&dq=%22shutter+shade%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jnNkU8PRH9HpoAS4t4H4BA&ved=0CF4Q6AEwBg

I am only disputing the characterization of this as solely a plural noun. - Amgine/ ^t·e 05:03, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Neither of those represent a singular form of the sunglasses sense that's currently in the entry, and so they do not call its status as plural-only into question. If either example turned out to be attestable, the definitions would belong at "shutter shade," not "shutter shades." This is a matter for WT:REE, not RFV. -Cloudcuckoolander (talk) 16:28, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

See shades for an example. It looks to me like shutter shade might be SOP, though. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:25, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

The photographic equipment is fairly specific, rather than SOP, as it does not describe its actual purpose (film 'shading'.) The awning use I have no clews about. Obviously either might be used as a plural, while the sunglasses sense would not (thus my contesting the plural only for the term, not {{rfv-sense}}.) - Amgine/ ^t·e 20:09, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

@Amgine "the sunglasses sense would not" "be used as a plural".

Of course it can. In this regard it inherits the properties of (deprecated template usage) glasses.

One can say "These glasses are cool" referring either to a single pair of eyeglasses or, say, all those in a display case.

Did you mean something other than my interpretation of what you said? DCDuring TALK 20:38, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

If you look at shades, you'll see there's a plural-only sense and a plural-of sense. As Cloudcuckoolander was saying, you just need to add the plural-of sense to make it parallel to that entry, which wouldn't require doing anything to the existing sense. Chuck Entz (talk) 20:59, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the RFV tag since this was, as noted, not an RFV matter. If you create [[shutter shade]] you can restore this version of the page and voila... - -sche (discuss) 21:37, 15 June 2014 (UTC)