Talk:verbod

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RFC discussion: November 2017–February 2021[edit]

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Two etymologies. DTLHS (talk) 23:40, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the second etymology and improved the first. —Rua (mew) 00:18, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm curious about the Proto-Germanic etymon. Dutch verbod is clearly related to verbieden, and the latter traces to Proto-Germanic *furibeudaną, which lists *furibudą as a derivation. However, the etym for Dutch verbod traces to Proto-Germanic *frabudą instead.
Are *furibudą and *frabudą alternative spellings of each other? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 00:34, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In the daughter languages of Proto-Germanic, the prefix *fra- was merged with *fur-, *firi-, *furi- (but this didn't happen in Gothic). @Anglom made the PGmc page *furibeudaną off the Gothic 𐍆𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌱𐌹𐌿𐌳𐌰𐌽 (faurbiudan) which would give us that *furi- prefix, BUT *frabeudaną could have also been possible (see Old English forbēodan, Old High German firbiotan and Old Frisian forbiada which would give us the *fra- prefix). Anglish4699 (talk) 18:01, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
For the Dutch verbod (also see English forbode), the Proto-Germanic term would likely be *frabudą to keep with the trend of ver- terms coming from PGmc *fra- unless a Gothic term can be found coming from *furibudą. Anglish4699 (talk) 19:38, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Closed as stale. — surjection??22:49, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]