Template talk:makurakotoba

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Can one of our Japanese editors tell me what this is good for? I fail to see the point in it. -- Liliana • 18:44, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

The only potential utility I see is the link through to the term makurakotoba, but this is not very useful. -- Eiríkr Útlendi | Tala við mig 05:42, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it gets even better -- the IP user who created {{makurakotoba|lang=en}} never even added the makurakotoba entry, but only linked through to w:Makurakotoba. Wow. Not very ... together. -- Eiríkr Útlendi | Tala við mig 06:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Is it a context of sorts, or the sort of thing that should be in the definition itself? --Mglovesfun (talk) 07:28, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not terribly familiar with the term, but judging from the WP article, it's a sort of set phrase used as a lead-in for a specific something else, which can sometimes be used as a stand-in for that something. I can sort of see why someone thought it might be useful to have such a category, but I have no idea how many such terms there might be. Shogakukan's J-J dictionary goes into ancient poetic forms, making me think this isn't too common in the modern language (which might also help explain how I've missed hearing about these before now). -- HTH, Eiríkr Útlendi | Tala við mig 16:22, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps analogous to {{simile}}? Mglovesfun (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a bit. Reading around on the term, it sounds more like cases where you've got a set intro, like, "there once was a man from Nantucket", that comes to represent the bit coming after -- in this case, just saying "a man from Nantucket" calls to mind ribald jokes, and I think this might be more the kind of association meant by makurakotoba. -- Eiríkr Útlendi | Tala við mig 16:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Meh, deleted. It's not very intelligible, and once one does understand what it means, it doesn't really seem like a context. (Restore and improve it if you disagree.) - -sche (discuss) 08:14, 23 May 2013 (UTC)