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sl-conj, etc.[edit]

Živjo!

Žal mi je ker ti nisem prvi poželel dobrodošlico, sicer pa upam da bom utegnil nadoknaditi svoj spregled.

Priznam da sprva nisem najbolje razumel tvoje prispevke na predlogah za spregatev, sedaj mi je pa malo bolj jasno čeprav še vedno ne kolikor bi želel. Za ta zadnji Template:sl-conj-éti-em recimo, nisem ziher zakaj si ga premaknil s Template:sl-conj-eti-em. V tem trenutuku se ne morem spomniti niti enega glagola ki ni na -éti ampak na -êti, pa sem si mislil da mi mogoče pomagaš. Nekako sem bil prepričan da se jaz in slovenščina tikamo. No saj boš zdaj že sam ugotovil če sem se zmotil pri moji Babilon šabloni.

Anyway, želim ti prijeten počutek tu. --77.105.27.163 21:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC) The preceding anonymous comment was left by User:Biblbroks.

Se pravi da onidve plešete pa slovenski jezik in moja malenkost se moramo vikat je samo pogovorno, ne? Kar pa zadeva predlogo, sprva sem pomislil da, če so vsi glagoli na -eti pravzaprav na -éti, da bi bilo mogoče bolje da se predloga poimenuje Template:sl-conj-eti-em. Takšno ime ne bi potrebovalo grafema z akcentom pa bi bilo potem lažje pri tipkanju z navadnim "keyboard layout"om. Če pa meniš da je za vsako spregatev potrebno v vzorcih imeti podatek o akcentu, mogoče bi bilo pametneje da najprej naredimo kategorizacijo glagolov tudi po akcentih. Recimo, mogoče da sva pozabila kakšen glagol ki je naglašen na zadnjem zlogu ampak da je na -êti, drugače pa se strinjam s tabo da je možno da so svi na -eti naglašeni izključno na zadnjem zlogu. Prav tako, zdi se mi "na prvu loptu" da svi ki imajo akcent ê da so verjetno izključno na -êsti. --BiblbroX дискашн 23:59, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Kot bi se reklo v srbohrvaščini "nisam pametan šta raditi". Moram priznati da mi sedaj ideja o predlogi z akcentom ni najbolj priljubljena prav zaradi brskanja za ´ simbolom, kajti pravkar ga nisem uspel najti na svoji tipkovnici ampak sem ga moral kopipejstat. Ne vem če sploh obstaja na standardni angleški tipkovnici (Poglej: w:File:Qwerty.svg in w:File:KB United States-NoAltGr.svg, in članke w:QWERTY in w:Keyboard layout). Zdi se da je pametneje da predloga, ki bi imela akcent v svojem imenu, sama ureja naglase in to najprej zato da bi se zmanjšala verjetnost napak pri posameznem vnosu, pač pa nisem siguren če bi to bilo dovolj user-friendly za navadne smrtnike - torej novince. Anyway, tisti seznam skupin glagolov bi bil dober za začetek strani Appendix:Slovene verbs. Kaj praviš? --BiblbroX дискашн 18:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

No če že meniš da take šablone ne bodo navzkriž z nečem drugim... za zdaj potem imamo Template:sl-conj-'eti-em ki sem jo pravkar naredil kot preusmeritev. V vsakem primeru seznam glagolov sem postavil kot povezavo na svojo stran User:Biblbroks/TODO/Slovene kot en delovni TODO seznam, da bi ga skupaj lažje urejala in da bi bil viden in dostopen vsakem ki je morebiti zainteresiran. A si pa voljen da napišeš vsaj nekaj stavkov o slovenščini za Wiktionary:About Slovene namesto pogovora ki tam obstaja? Mislim da je bolje da to ti kot materni govorec začneš. --BiblbroX дискашн 16:37, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Dovolim :-) Živel sem v Sloveniji 14 let do 1991-ega. Zdaj sem v Beogradu. Pa ti? Za About Slovene poglej npr. WT:About English, WT:About Serbo-Croatian ali WT:About German kako zgledajo. Najbolje bi bilo da so tam neke osnovne informacije o slovnici in vrstah besed, ali pa vsaj kakšni layouti za gesla naj bi bili v uporabi in katere vse predloge bi bile koristne. Sem pravil da če si se ti s temi predlogami začel ukvarjat da bi verjetno ti tudi znal to čim bolj sistematično začeti. Spomnil se še enega glagola "sezuti" - ne vem če obstaja še takih glagolov, ampak če ta ni nepravilen verjetno da je to nova kategorija Template:sl-conj-uti-ujem. Ali sem pa zgrešil nekatero od tistih ki si jih že sestavil? Lep pozdrav, --BiblbroX дискашн 11:42, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Requests[edit]

Hi there. If you have time, you might be able to help with some of the pages listed at Category:Requests (Slovene). Ƿidsiþ 08:42, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

kljukica and že[edit]

Hello there. Thanks for cleaning up the Slovene entries I created. Two issues:

  1. If a "[s]trešica is a kljukica turned upside down", doesn't that make one of them a háček, but the other a circumflex? Could you please add a Slovene section to strešica?
  2. Regarding this deletion, if že is indeed the Slovene name of the letter Ž, ž, then there should be an entry for it, just like we have entries for Latin's names for the letters of its own alphabet. Is že the Slovene name for Ž, ž or not?

Thanks for your time. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 15:22, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

FYI, I've responded on my talk page. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 19:02, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi bead-v. Just to let you know, I've ceased editing. You can find my response at User talk:Doremítzwr/Archive/03#Regarding kljukica and že. If you wish to respond, please do so here; I may see it, but I shall not respond. Sorry. I think, however, that our discussion had concluded; it was good working with you. Good luck with your endeavors here. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 02:32, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I definitely hope you'll still see this message, even though I'm pretty late to respond. Indeed, I think we found a very good solution for the letters. I will however miss such productive cooperation in the future. For whatever reasons you made your decision, I wish you the best of luck! –bead-v, talk — 18:49, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

sprejeti[edit]

A bi po tej naši kategorizaciji glagol sprejeti bil v skupini -éti, -em glagolov? --BiblbroX дискашн 17:25, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Ne moti me. Hvala za link k slovenskem pravopisu. Uporabljal sem ga prej kot slovar ampak nisem vedel da ima tudi pravopis. Tudi tebi en link: PONS slovar ... če še ne veš zanj. =) Baje prevaja na mnoge jezike. --BiblbroX дискашн 09:47, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Slovene verbal inflection templates[edit]

Slavic languages don't lend themselves well to templatization (at least on MediaWiki, sans any form of decent string search/extraction/pattern matching/regex support). So unless you're intent on reproducing the unbrowsable horror of [[Category:Russian noun inflection-table templates]], I suggest you focus your efforts on writing some kind of simple software that will automagically generate full inflections, or extract it from external sources (e.g. [1]). There is no shortage of disk space, and it would also significantly facilitate 3rd party reuse of Wiktionary content. Just a thought :] --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 21:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)