Appendix talk:Months of the year
To those who would move this page: Of the 43 calendars in use today, we do show the one that is common to all English speaking countries as "the" year. --Connel MacKenzie 02:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- Except India. See the Wikipedia article on the Indian national calendar. --EncycloPetey 02:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed! Please look at the first lines of that article! India most certainly does use the Gregorian calendar. --Connel MacKenzie 03:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- They use the Gregorian calendar as a year, not as the year. --EncycloPetey 03:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- Please re-read the introduction of the page you linked. The Hindu calendar is the "formal" only calendar. FURTHERMORE I said it is a calendar that is common to ALL English speaking countries. Not some particular POV. --Connel MacKenzie 03:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- No, you didn't. I quote from the top of the page (emphasis mine):
- we...show the one that is common to all English speaking countries as "the" year.
- The Gregorian calendar is not "the" year in India, according to the Wikipedia article. And according to the wikipedia article on the Hindu calendar, there is no standard in actual use in India, but rather a diversity of regional religious calendars. Quoted from the latter article:
- "The two calendars most widely used in India today are the Vikrama calendar followed in North India and the Shalivahana or Saka calendar which is followed in South India and Maharashtra."
- The National Calendar was an attempt to introduce a nation-wide standard. It simply hasn't caught on. --EncycloPetey 03:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. That is what I said. So yes, India uses the Gregorian calendar also and yes, it is the only calendar that is common to all English speaking countries. So yes, it is POV to call it anything else on the English Wiktionary. --Connel MacKenzie 05:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- No, The Gregorian is not the only calendar common. I'd be willing to bet that the Arabic and Chinese calendars are used in as many English-speaking countries as the Gregorian is. And saying that India uses the Gregorian calendar is misleading. The official government publications use them while the general populace, according to the Wikipedia articles, does not. --EncycloPetey 22:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I think some people missed my point[edit]
So I realize I should have said this on the talk page before unilaterally making that move (totally my mistake)... but yah so my point is not that the Gregorian Calendar is not the most widely-used calendar in the world, both the English-speaking part and the non-English speaking part... my point is that it's simply inaccurate to say that this is the year. This is only one of many calendars used around the world, including parts of the world where the languages on this list are spoken. In particular, when I added Bengali, I had to decide whether or not to use the names of the Gregorian months or the Bengali months. They are both solar calendars and include months of around 30-31 days, but they don't match up one-to-one. Each Gregorian month is split into two Bengali months, and vice versa, due to the overlap. Anyhow, in countries like Bangladesh, there is no sense of the calendar or the year. On all newspapers, it's made clear next to each of the three officially-accepted versions of the day's date that it is only one of three calendar dates... as in, it will say something like "25 Falgun 1412 B.S., 17 Muharram 1427 A.H., 27 February 2006 C.E." (most often translated into Bengali), with each date labeled with an abbreviation. I find it a little pompous to not make that sort of distinction in a dictionary - on Wikipedia all calendars are labeled with their designation (e.g. "Gregorian calendar", "Bengali calendar", etc.), and no calendar gets designated simply "year" or "calendar", even though the Gregorian calendar is by far the most widely-used in the English-speaking world. Anyhow, those are my thoughts. --SameerKhan 11:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. A move might not be the only solution. We should at the least add introductory lines to note that the table reflects the Julian/Gregorian calendar. --EncycloPetey 22:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Months of the Jewish calendar in Yiddish[edit]
Are there similar lists for other calendars? I've copied the following from Yidisher Tam-Tam #37 but don't know where it would fit.
| March/ April |
April/ May |
May/ June |
June/ July |
|---|---|---|---|
| ניסן (nisn, ניסן) |
אייר (iyer, איײר) |
סיוון (sivn, סיװן) |
תּמוז (tamez, טאַמעז) |
| July/ August |
August/ September |
September/ October |
October/ November |
| אָבֿ (ov, אָװ) |
אלול (elel, עלעל) |
תּישרי (tishre, טישרע) |
חשוון (kheshvn, כעשװן) |
| November/ December |
December/ January |
January/ February |
February/ March |
| כּיסלו (kislev, קיסלעװ) |
טבֿת (teyves, טײװעס) |
שבֿט (shvat, שװאַט) |
אָדר (oder, אָדער) |
Wiktionary software decomposes everything precomposed (except ײ and װ) to combining characters. Dustsucker 02:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Same list[edit]
See a German Wikipedia user's collection at de:w:Benutzer:Tlustulimu/Monatsnamen in verschiedenen Sprachen. Dustsucker 02:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's a very well made list and very interesting, thanks for the link! Skimel (talk) 12:20, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
More Slavic non-intuitive months[edit]
I have just added Ukrainian month names. If anyone wants to go at Belarusian, Czech, Polish or Slovenian, here are the links:
--Anatoli 06:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Done Belarusian. --Anatoli 06:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Done Polish. May continue later with Czech and Slovenian. --Anatoli 06:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Done Slovenian and Slovak. --Anatoli 00:25, 8 April 2010 (UTC)