Appendix talk:Old Georgian nouns

Absolutive or predicative

• absolutive
• absolutive

Dixtosa (talk) 09:29, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Dixtosa if it was absolutive it lost its "Absolutive case" capabilities BEFORE Shushanik. I call it "Predicative" because the only reason it was MOSTLY used was AS a predicate. It DEFINED Predicates. არს, იქმნეს... ამ ზმნების შემდეგ მოდიოდა წრფელობითი. "ის კეთილია" რომ ვამბობთ ახლა ძველად იყო "კეთილ არს იგი" იგი - სახელობითი, კეთილ - წრფელობითი. "კეთილ ვიქმენ მე" and etc. It does show "Absolutive" tendencies sometimes, as in: Subject of an intransitive verb or Object of a transitive one it CAN denote, but that was getting older and older until it was FULLY changed by the nominative. Akaki Shanidze calls predicative "Ancient Nominative" in Georgian. It is entirely possible that Ancient Georgian (After Georgian-Zan and Before Old Georgian) was fully an Ergative-Absolutive language, but we cannot be sure, and since the main function of the case IN TEXTS WE KNOW was to create a predicative alignment, I, Akaki Shanidze, and a professor Akaki mentioned "ამით აიხსნება, რომ ფრანც ცორელმა ამ ბრუნვას შემასმენლობითი (der Prädikativ) [-> the Predicative] უწოდა". We could mention it in the article, but we could also call it "Absolutive-Predicative", I don't know... I think Predicative makes sense. Should we ask linguists? not Georgian ones, foreign ones too. -Solarkoid (talk) 10:48, 19 October 2020 (UTC)