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Testing a sample Belarusian text with word stresses[edit]


белару́ская мо́ва, сям’я́:


Белару́ская мо́ва — мо́ва белару́саў, увахо́дзіць у сям’ю́ індаеўрапе́йскіх моў, яе́ славя́нскай гру́пы і ўсходнеславя́нскіх мо́ваў падгру́пы, на яко́й размаўля́юць у Белару́сі і па ўсім све́це, гало́ўным чы́нам у Расі́і, Украі́не, По́льшчы.

It's one to one, so Yes check.svg Done. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:50, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

@Atitarev Do you know how to remove the accent from the transliteration of ё (jo) in monosyllabic words? The translit of ён (jon) should be (jon), I think. I see Module:ru-translit has a piece of code for treating that (lines 188-201). --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 20:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
The same rule for monosyllabic words applies to Belarusian but Belarusian never gets a "ё" after these consonants and there's no letter Щ/щ. Like in Russian, there are rare cases when "ё" is not stressed, e.g. ра́дыё (rádyjo) and needs a manual transliteration, unless there's another method (e.g. suppress a stress over "jo" if another syllable is stressed).--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 21:23, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
@Atitarev: Unfortunately, I can't code for shit. A shame Benwing doesn't contribute anymore... I've found him on Facebook (we even have a friend in common, lol), but I don't want to bother him. He must have his reasons. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 14:34, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@Guldrelokk: Do you think you could help with this? (i.e. remove the accent from the translit of <ё> in monosyllables (e.g. ён (jon)), and in words where another letter already bears the accent (e.g. ра́дыё (rádyjo)))? --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 14:31, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I think I can try. Guldrelokk (talk) 15:10, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done for both ё and о, which have the same status in Belarusian. Ignores words with several /o/ like Токіо. Guldrelokk (talk) 15:45, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Guldrelokk: Awesome, спасибо большое! --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 17:13, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

@Guldrelokk, Atitarev: Hello. I hadn't realised the implications of Guldrelokk last message, but if <о> is always accented (save for words like Токіо (Tokio)), that means notations such as ко́рань or жо́луд are redundant, right? Shouldn't we simply write корань and жолуд then? --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 12:27, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

@Per utramque cavernam: It is an option, yes, although there is a tradition to mark a stress over "о" -> "о́", it doesn't adversely affect the display but there is normally no tradition to mark a stress over "ё" -> "ё́" and it doesn't always look nice or clear. Both uses are not 100% reliable, consider the secondary stresses as well. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 12:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
That’s right, but dictionaries keep marking stress over <о>, probably for the sake of tradition and being overtly clear. Perhaps it may be useful for people unfamiliar with the language. Guldrelokk (talk) 13:36, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
All right, thanks to you both. I won't remove the accents then. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC)