Reconstruction talk:Gothic/๐Œฑ๐‚๐Œฟ๐Œถ๐Œณ๐‰๐Œฝ

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s, z or r?[edit]

This term can't have s, judging by the Old Saxon and OHG cognates. z normally becomes r in West Germanic. But the Romance loans have s, which doesn't really fit. I wonder if that is a sign that the change of z to r hadn't happened at the time of borrowing. If that's true, then that would have a lot of implications for the morphology of Frankish as well. โ€”CodeCat 23:49, 24 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

That, or it was influenced by *brust, *burst (โ€œa bristle, prickโ€), ultimately from the same root. --Victar (talk) 00:52, 25 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
@Rua, Victar, Leasnam, Anglom: At Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/bruzdลnฤ… it implies that the Romance loans are from Gothic *๐Œฑ๐‚๐Œฟ๐Œถ๐Œณ๐‰๐Œฝ (*bruzdลn), not from West Germanic at all. I'm currently in the process of moving our Frankish entries to Proto-West Germanic, but I'm tempted to move this page to the Gothic reconstruction instead. What do other people think? โ€”Mahฤgaja ยท talk 20:19, 9 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
In the absence of any objection (indeed, any discussion at all), I'm moving it to Gothic now. โ€”Mahฤgaja ยท talk 14:06, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply