Talk:國民

Pronunciations

@Mar vin kaiser, just wondering if you have sources for this edit. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 15:38, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: Basically, I just took the pronunciations in 民國, and flipped them around. I think it's one of the words which is just pan-Chinese where each variety just pronounce the character the way it's read in that variety. Would that be ok or do you think we should have specific sources for each? --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 07:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: I was thinking if ever we need some specific source, we would have to ask native speakers whether they would say it like that. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 07:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser: Ideally, these should be verified. It's better to be silent on things we don't know. The biggest concern is Gan, where stress seems to be important. We definitely can't know where the stress lies unless we ask a native speaker. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 16:56, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: Could you explain, by the way, how the stress in Gan works? Especially with the tones? Thanks. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 09:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser: It doesn't have much to do with the tones in that it's unpredictable from the tones. For two-syllable sequences, there can be 3 types of stress: (1) unstressed first syllable and stressed second syllable, (2) stressed first syllable and unstressed second syllable (second syllable's tone is intact) and (3) neutral tone on the second syllable (original tone on the second syllable is lost and its actual tone depends on the first syllable). — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 09:26, 24 April 2020 (UTC)