Talk:-ishness

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ishness[edit]

This is merely a compound of two independent suffixes, similar to other such combinations (-ed+ness; un+be-; trans+in-; mis+pro-; etc.). Leasnam 15:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Can you provide a single instance of a word of the form "Xishness" that was used before the adjective of the form "Xish"? If this term has never functioned in that way, it is not itself a suffix. The same question applies to all the other things you call "compound suffixes". I do not believe that editors here wish to have such terms without some evidence that the terms has actually been used as in a single suffixation process, rather than being a result of two successive suffixations. DCDuring TALK 17:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
No, I am in complete agreement with you. selfishness is not self + -ishness, but rather selfish + -ness. I did not create this entry, nor do I consider it valid, although I have made some edits. My statement above was not in defense that it should stay, but I was attempting to point out the superfluity of it. I just didn't want to come outright and say kill it. Maybe I was too soft. Leasnam 18:56, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

RFV discussion[edit]

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Do three example of this exist where it is not -ish +‎ -ness? Mglovesfun (talk) 12:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Agree. -ness makes a noun of the adjective-making -ish. Pingku 20:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Moved to RFD.RuakhTALK 16:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Deletion debate[edit]

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-ishness[edit]

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Do three example of this exist where it is not -ish +‎ -ness? Mglovesfun (talk) 12:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Agree. -ness makes a noun of the adjective-making -ish. Pingku 20:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

So far as I know, we don't have specific requirements for suffixes, so I couldn't really delete it as "RFV failed"; but even so, I think we should delete it.

RuakhTALK 16:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Delete per my comment above. Though, -manship did survive and RFD debate. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
If I remember rightly, it was because of some examples such as oneupmanship. I somehow doubt anyone will find something similar for -ishness, but we have to give it it's 30 days. -- ALGRIF talk 11:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Yep (Talk:-manship), and this has had 30 days. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Delete it with a deletion summary indicating that it can be re-created if it is found to exist, à la RFV-failed entries.​—msh210 (talk) 20:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I've done exactly that, deleted. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:09, 10 September 2010 (UTC)