Talk:Vichy water

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Vichy water[edit]

Isn't this just water from Vichy? Or am I missing something here? There are several other brands of water which we do not include either, no matter whether or not they're carbonated. -- Liliana 14:27, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's from particular springs or spas. Formerly supposed to have health benefits. It's not any old tap-water from Vichy, and it isn't a brand. Equinox 14:28, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Right in front of me, I have a bottle labeled "Bad Vilbel water". By your logic, we should include that as a separate entry, because it doesn't refer to tap water from Bad Vilbel, but only to water from particular springs. To me, that doesn't make a lot of sense. -- Liliana 14:34, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
If it's a kind of water, what kind is it?Lucifer 06:15, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

When I was growing up, my parents used sometimes to buy bottled carbonated (artifically carbonated, not with natural bubbles) water with certain salts/minerals in it — IIRC baking soda was one of them. They called this Vichy water. Seemingly that was not just their idiolectic word for it: First of all, see La Republique Francaise v. Saratoga Vichy Springs Co., 107 F. 459, aff'd, French Republic v. Saratoga Vichy Spring Co., 191 U.S. 427, which, though they discuss the use of Vichy by a specific company, may be weak evidence of its use generally. But more convincingly, see [1], which sounds like so-called "vichy water" may have had some antacid in it. (Baking soda is an antacid.) Similarly, see [2], where so-called "Vichy water" is made, so is clearly not from the Vichy (France) springs. (And it contains baking soda.) (Don't let the italics there throw you off: italics are used throughout that text for English words.) Now, certainly Vichy water also refers to water from the Vichy springs, as in [3]: I'm arguing merely that it has another meaning also.​—msh210 (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure (but have difficulty in proving) that this was a generic term for mineral water before there were any commercial brands of the stuff. SemperBlotto 08:22, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Chambers has an entry. Equinox 19:45, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Naturally, Vichy water has existed before any commercial brand like Vichy Saint Yorre or Vichy Célestins. Vichy water can not simply be considered as water from Vichy. It has long been a remedy, owing to its peculiar chemical properties, and there were some Vichy waters that had never seen the French soils. This is why you should see it as a generic term.
Else what would mean google books:"artificial vichy water"? ("In 1862 Carl H. Schultz, the testator of the defendant, began in New York the manufacture and sale of artificial Vichy water in accordance with the standard analysis of the Grand Grille spring by Bauer, an assistant of Struve.") — Xavier, 01:08, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
See also Apollinaris water (also from Webster 1913). Equinox 12:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Kept as no consensus. No votes but most comments are disputing that it’s just water from Vichy. — Ungoliant (Falai) 21:27, 12 August 2012 (UTC)