User talk:Equinox

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consanguinity[edit]

What is the opposite of consanguinity? --Romanophile (talk) 13:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I can't think of one. Equinox 15:32, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Non-consanguinity, unrelatedness. — Ungoliant (falai) 15:38, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
aconsanguinity exists, but is pretty rare. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:43, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Msflair‎[edit]

Did you mean that to go to his talk page? SemperBlotto (talk) 19:29, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

How are you?[edit]

Hello mate, how's your summer? --A230rjfowe (talk) 13:30, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi. It is okay. Going to a little barbecue in a couple of hours. But first: WORDS! Equinox 13:32, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Enjoy the BBQ. I might make entries for grill tongs, barbecuable, rotisseried to celebrate --A230rjfowe (talk) 13:45, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

missold[edit]

See Talk:mis-sold. Kaixinguo~enwiktionary (talk) 10:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

-work[edit]

It's true that Category talk:English words suffixed with -work was deleted twice (once for being empty, once for being full of compounds), but -work hasn't been RFD'd, and I'd maintain that in the specific cases listed in the entry, it's a suffix, not a compound (At least one dictionary, Cambridge, agrees). Would you be able to undelete and put the entry up for RFD/RFV? Smurrayinchester (talk) 05:55, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

All right. Equinox 23:23, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Smurrayinchester (talk) 07:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

So that's what half means![edit]

Ta for useful edit summary. I was so sure I knew what half meant, I never bothered to check, but it seems my ideolect was unusually restrictive. I happened to have OED open when I received the revert notifications, so checked there, and as with so many modern words, the earliest meanings are rather different to now (sides of an object, opposing sides in a conflict, parties to a transaction). While those had all died out by 1600 (or at least any cites were unknown to OED when OED2 was printed), it does explain why several of the modern uses, which had always irritated me as "wrong" because they did not represent 0.50000000, were in fact totally justifiable, and it was I who was wrong! An interesting few minutes. --Enginear 15:26, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

To be honest I'd like to imagine that this is because things (in the real world) are rarely cut into two exact halves (what are the odds of managing this with an apple and a knife?) and people are just pragmatic about it. I don't suppose most people think "it's okay to say half for an almost-half because of ancient etymology"; they just wouldn't know. Equinox 21:45, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes and no -- I think there's a huge inertia in formal language, not least because parents and schools tend to object if children breach the norms they're used to. An idiosyncrasy of my mum was that she insisted that it was extremely rude to call somebody's children kids because it was tantamount to calling the parents goats. And of course, using hopefully in the sense of I hope that was marked down at school. As a result, I don't think I used either expression until I was past 40, and I still use them less than most people. If everyone had been taught at school that half must be used only for an exact 0.5, that might now be the predominant use. The word's history provides an indication of why that should never have happened, and probably never did.
While I tend towards exactness in my own use of language, I'm not generally prescriptivist about other people's (my children might disagree), though, like you I think, I feel word usage, grammar and punctuation in Wikt (and even Wikipedia) should be of a high standard. I suspect my annoyance about "misuse" of half stemmed from childhood squabbles with friends who would always end up keeping the big half for themselves -- I wouldn't have minded if someone cut the apple at least trying to make both halves equal, but if they made a straight cut so far off-centre that they missed the core altogether....
So it was amusing to find that my greedy friends had been on solid ground all along -- if I'd been more knowledgeable, I suppose I should have asked for the bigger half myself before they cut it, rather than expecting 50%! And it was also fascinating to see that, after such a long time, the basic meaning behind the usage of half had hardly changed, while over a shorter period some word meanings have nearly reversed, eg awful changing from awe-inspiring to its present meaning, while in other cases, the wording behind the same meaning has somersaulted, eg heels over head to head over heels. I suppose the concept of relationship of two things which are comparable, sometimes because of near-equality, sometimes not, has remained useful.
And the occasional discovery that I have misunderstood the meaning of a common word for over half a century is good for keeping my ego in check! --Enginear 10:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Haha. Good story. I bet that no amount of etymological wrangling would stop mean kids from being mean one way or another! Equinox 17:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Type#Noun (mathematics)[edit]

The definition has what looks to me to be a misleadingly piped inline link to WP, which should be removed. But there is, I think, some substance behind the link, but which is beyond my current paygrade. Can you handle it somehow? DCDuring TALK 01:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't really understand the mathematics (and often add maths entries to Wikt that are beyond my expertise, trusting Wikipedia etc.). I believe there is a way to convert computer program code (which is Turing complete, i.e. can be reduced to a certain sort of known, solvable problem) into a pure-mathematical system (which I don't really comprehend at all); this might be useful in forming certain kinds of proof à la Hofstadter. But that's as far as I can guess. The link doesn't look too bad to be honest. Equinox 21:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Burton quotation for "minion"[edit]

You requested quotations at minion from Beaumont and Fletcher ("ordnance") and Burton ("minimum"). I dug up the former, but I don't know which "Burton" you're referring to. The only Burtons I could think of are LeVar, Richard, and Richard Francis, in order of what I imagine is increasing likelihood. Could you please specifiy, perhaps with any ideas you might have on work or subject? (I suspect it'll be a bit harder to find this one.) Thanks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:41, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Actually it's Robert Burton (scholar). (Props for being a ST:TNG nerd though.) Equinox 21:41, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

cornworms[edit]

Hey, you missed the singular :) --A230rjfowe (talk) 15:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Yes, it's annoying but, WF, you do something similar by adding words with only an {{rfdef}} template. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:22, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
You people are all stupid and I refuse to have this stupid argument again. Creating plurals is worthwhile. Suck it. Equinox 20:43, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Back to work, everyone. --A230rjfowe (talk) 20:45, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

List of missing vernacular names[edit]

User:DCDuring/VernacularNamesMissing contains hundreds of vernacular names missing more than once on Wiktionary (based on usage of {{vern}}). There about 3,000 others missing on only one page.

I also wrote my procedure for adding this kind of entry. I'd welcome your thoughts on automation.

Thanks for goading me to do something about these. DCDuring TALK 17:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Nice list. If you want some sort of bot-work like capturing the first 3 sentences for each of those organisms that have a WP entry then I imagine I could do something. I don't see how we can avoid some manual work here. Equinox 00:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Blocking IP v.6s[edit]

You and @Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV have been playing whack-a-mole with a very persistent twit in Chicago for three months:

  1. 2601:241:201:6DFB:393B:2867:463B:9BE2 (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked June 17, 2015
  2. 2601:241:201:6DFB:31:AB0F:7311:A04 (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked June 19, 2015
  3. 2601:241:201:6DFB:D8D5:98AD:DB1B:C34B (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked June 27, 2015
  4. 2601:241:201:6DFB:F4FC:B1E1:232C:854B (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked July 2, 2015
  5. 2601:241:201:6DFB:D81B:CFF4:89ED:6CDD (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked July 16, 2015
  6. 2601:241:201:6DFB:65D2:6522:AD1E:EE57 (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked July 17, 2015
  7. 2601:241:201:6DFB:3037:3627:A29C:F43B (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked July 23, 2015
  8. 2601:241:201:6DFB:ED9E:742E:7567:17BF (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked July 24, 2015
  9. 2601:241:201:6DFB:A5CF:5A14:F5AD:C2B1 (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked August 1, 2015
  10. 2601:241:201:6DFB:6963:5820:A837:2957 (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked August 10, 2015
  11. 2601:241:201:6DFB:7521:BB88:3F32:96BE (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked August 15, 2015
  12. 2601:241:201:6DFB:89B0:E94:583:CD68 (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked August 16, 2015
  13. 2601:241:201:6DFB:79EF:51C1:F7F2:DB4C (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked August 18, 2015
  14. 2601:241:201:6DFB:60F8:E5E4:9F9D:1F7F (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked August 19, 2015
  15. 2601:241:201:6DFB:3C7F:31B9:FAEC:59E (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) - blocked August 21, 2015

As you can see, they simply switched IPs after being blocked and picked up where they left off. My point is that ISPs assign a 64- or 65-bit range of IPs to each account, so blocking that single IP solves only 1/ 264th of your problem. You need to add "/65" or "/64" to the IP address when you block an IP v.6.

Not that it will completely stop them: when I blocked the 64-bit range including 2601:D:5500:C1E:35CA:B78A:33CA:8853 (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks) on May 3, they briefly switched to a mobile account: 2607:FB90:2C1:34:0:47:E429:F201 (talkcontribswhoisdeleted contribsnukeedit filter logblockblock logactive blocksglobal blocks), and then came back in mid-June with another 64-bit block of IPs. Still, the month-long gap in between suggests we can at least slow them down. Chuck Entz (talk) 00:23, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


My last edit[edit]

Hello May I ask you to have a look at my edit at

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/granica

The entry is valid for all 4 languages and maybe I should place it at the beginning OR 4 times in the article. I have logged out for this so an Admin would come aling and check it more probably. Thanks

Another question: I tried an enty like Lua error in Module:links/templates at line 61: The language code "granica" is not valid. but it didnt work....

Thanx Rasmusklump

Looking at the history, I think Ungoliant has fixed it. Equinox 22:54, 23 August 2015 (UTC)