Talk:absolution

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absolution

Discussion moved from WT:RFD#absolution.

I can't find any reference to this sense in any of my sources, and it seems so far off of the rest of the definition that I felt that it should be scrutinized. Speednat (talk) 10:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Moved from RFD to RFV. Definition in question is "Delivery, in speech." Mglovesfun (talk) 11:28, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

It's from Webster 1913, readily accessible via “absolution”, in OneLook Dictionary Search.. But it is odd and needs citations. DCDuring TALK 14:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I found the usage from Ben Jonson's commonplace book (a well-known work???) that Webster's referenced. DCDuring TALK 14:51, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

It might be based on oration being metaphorically a "release", a "setting free" of normally guarded thoughts from the speaker's mind. I am having trouble finding others who use the term this way. DCDuring TALK 15:15, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

The OED marks the sense obsolete and rare, citing only the Jonson usage from nearly 400 years ago. If we include this, then perhaps we should include the other, slightly more recent usage (1655, T Fuller) with the meaning of "Dismissal, dissolution". I'd be inclined to omit both unless we can find another two cites each with these clear meanings. Dbfirs 20:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Failed. Citation placed on Citations page. Sense deleted. DCDuring TALK 23:23, 1 August 2013 (UTC)