Talk:constant

Dutch pronunciation

@Rua, Morgengave, Lambiam, DrJos, Thadh, Mnemosientje For the sense "continuous, unceasing" I more often tend to use /ˈkɔn.stɑnt/, especially when I use it adverbially, a stress placement that I didn't yet find in a dictionary. I think I have heard others also using it for "invariable" as in constante snelheid, but I am not entirely sure. Are any of you familiar with that pronunciation? ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 08:41, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

In this clip (at t=0:55) I hear indeed “Ik ben weer /ˈkɔn.stɑnt/ aan het leren”.  --Lambiam 10:05, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

To me it's like they stress both syllables, making it sound like a compound word. —Rua (mew) 12:13, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it sort of sounds like that to me as well. I think I hear /ˈkɔnˌstɑnt/. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 18:49, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

To me it's "De hoeveelheid natrium is /kɔnˈstɑnt/.", but "Waarom zit je /ˈkɔn.stɑnt/ te zeuren?". I have heard both. NL, BE Brabant?, BE (first) NL, NL (second) Thadh (talk) 13:35, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Funnily enough, I would pronounce it as "Waarom zeur je /kɔnˈstɑnt/?" Thadh (talk) 13:44, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

@Rua, Lambiam, Thadh Thanks for the feedback. Do you think /ˈkɔn.stɑnt/ should be qualified as uncommon/less common or specified per sense? Thadh's final comment suggests that word order may play a role; it's interesting that the last example actually 'breaks' a meter that would otherwise have been perfectly trochaic.

I also wonder whether it's a recent innovation or not, since older dictionaries don't have it; could it have been influenced by English /ˈkɒnstənt/, /ˈkɑnstənt/? ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 18:49, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

My last comment may be my personal bugs. Anyway, with my references in mind, I think both pronunciations are used interchangeably or at least parallelly, so I'd just {{IPA|/ˈkɔn.stɑnt/|/kɔnˈstɑnt/}}. Thadh (talk) 21:56, 16 October 2020 (UTC)