Talk:cut above

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a cut above[edit]

Adjective. This doesn't behave like an adjective, forming a plural, not accepting modification by "very" or "too", not working in attributive position. See the noun section. The expression seems not to be a constituent in many uses. DCDuring TALK 15:47, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it's not an adjective. Delete or show that it is. Mglovesfun (talk) 02:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

deleted -- Liliana 03:19, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

several problems[edit]

1) The entry says It has been requested that this entry be moved. But where?

2) It also says the word is one of category:English non-constituents. But noun is truly one of the English constituents. Besides it's really awkward to see that noun (or noun phrase) is followed by noun phrase.

I propose a method of getting rid of that by choosing Idiom (or phrase) as the part of speech.

3) If, nevertheless, it is a noun, does it need an article? or it is frozen with the indefinite article?. But we have USA rather the USA. Still, usage notes should be written.

BTW, havent it made you remember the word: a bit? If we perceive a cut much like a bit (including the meaning), everything's gonna be put in their place. :D--Dixtosa 18:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

  1. Hard to say where it should be moved rather than deleted, but it should lose the a.
  2. In the second sense it requires a complement. IMO, properly analyzed, in the second sense, with the complement X, it would be analyzed as 'a[det] + cut[n] => NP + above[prep] + X[nominal]' => PP. This the lexical entry crosses constituent boundaries and is not a constituent itself in this sense. I am not completely sure about the analysis of the other sense, but it looks like a constituent to me.
  3. Although a is by far the most common determiner used with this, it is not the only one and an adjective can intervene between the determiner (usually an article) and cut.

-- DCDuring TALK 19:40, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree with User:DCDuring that a move is needed. I have moved the page from a cut above to cut above and will make some adjustments to the content of entry as well. -- · (talk) 00:45, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

RFM discussion: July 2011[edit]


The following discussion has been moved from Wiktionary:Requests for moves, mergers and splits (permalink).

This discussion is no longer live and is left here as an archive. Please do not modify this conversation, but feel free to discuss its conclusions.

Though the plural of this is not nearly as common as the singular, it is common enough to be found 4 times in the idiomatic sense, compared to more than a hundred at COCA for the singular. The entry is now called an adjective, but that is clearly wrong. DCDuring TALK 15:33, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Of course, the redirect should remain as the collocation is quite common. DCDuring TALK 15:55, 14 July 2011 (UTC)